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The Handmaid's Tale S4 at C4 pace (no spoilers from Hulu subscribers)

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Faircastle · 20/06/2021 14:55

A thread for those watching Season 4 of the Handmaid's Tale on Channel 4 starting this evening. There's another thread for those who have already streamed it via Hulu, so it would be good if we could keep this one free of spoilers for episodes beyond those Channel 4 has broadcast.

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OnTheBoardwalk · 25/06/2021 19:48

After a week of binge re watching season 1 to 3 on Prime I’m finally up to date. It was a hard and harrowing week watching them all together.

What was behind the red masks was more hard hitting this time around

I also think Alma is up to something. I’ve never fully trusted her although I did like her comment to June about 'after carrying your fat ass across friggin’ Massachusetts.'

WitchSharkadder · 25/06/2021 20:44

I've never had any suspicions about Alma at all, I've always loved her character actually. In a way she provides a bit of light relief with her sarcasm. But otherwise she's been in the background a fair bit and it's never occurred to me she might be plotting. Hmm, food for thought.

OnTheBoardwalk · 25/06/2021 22:06

I liked Alma's straight talking but of all the HMs that came looking for June she would have been bottom of my list

I hope I’m wrong

GoingGently · 25/06/2021 22:13

I think alma might be one to watch too. The way she'd abandoned her lookout post...just seems fed up with it all... (am I thinking of the right one?)

Thisisworsethananticpated · 26/06/2021 08:08

June is a warrior now
She probably won’t slip into being a mother ever again as her warrior side is too strong
And given that everyone is totally traumatised why would Esther get special treatment

It’s so clever how we have feelings and affinity for aunt Lydia and serene despite knowing how vile they are

Aunt Lydia is a superlative actress
Stunning work

JoJoandGreg · 26/06/2021 14:46

I feel the same! Esther, to me, is terrifying and turning her into a murderer to help her deal with her rage isn't going to help her heal or relieve her trauma. Killing this one man isn't going to heal her. She's still going to have all those memories. It's only going to create a need to kill again.

Gilead is a brutal place. I don't think any of can actually comprehend how brutal it is. June is teaching Esther to survive.

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Crinkle77 · 26/06/2021 21:06

Anyway she is supposed to be 14.

TheSpottedZebra · 26/06/2021 21:06

Blessed Day. I have now caught up on Series 1-3, AND watched S4 ep 1. And now i shall catch up in this thread!

Hoping for no spoilers. Even that one, Outbutnotoutout , that's a spoiler, no?

dapsnotplimsolls · 26/06/2021 21:13

That's definitely a spoiler!!

Outbutnotoutout · 26/06/2021 21:43

Oh sorry
I didn't realise it was a proper spoiler, promise I won't do that again

Is she 14yrs ?

AlohaMolly · 26/06/2021 22:25

I think June recognises the power in group mentality. Positive or negative, there is power in mass. Like when she was giving birth on her own, she drew strength from her experience with Hannah, Luke and Moira but equally from the indoctrination and chanting and routine of the Aunts and the Handmaids birth rituals.

Esther’s trauma is different to the handmaids’ apart from maybe Janine. Wasn’t janine raped before Gilead as well? June and the rest have been traumatised, no doubt, but they’re adults and had the privilege to grow up before Gilead so had a good grounding in a positive reality and can hope to recover from it if they escape and get the right help. Esther is a child and is a child that grew up being abused and raped and away from any love or hope. Her brain is wired differently from the majority of the other housemaids because trauma in children does that.

There is nothing that June can do for that child apart from give her purpose, give her the comfort of boundaries and rituals. I don’t mean traumatised children are beyond help in the real world at all, but at that farm in Gilead then the resources are limited.

I sort of think June is still taking the responsibility on herself by positioning herself as Aunt Lydia. Ultimately, the buck stops with her. How many of those handmaids have been able to absolve themselves of responsibility for killing as a group in Gilead because they tell themselves they did it because Aunt Lydia told them to? It’s true for Esther now too. Esther killed that man because June told her too. He needed to die because he’d have informed on them, but June took the power from Esther and gave her permission.

It was an amazing episode!

TrifleCat · 27/06/2021 11:57

Blessed day to you all!

I’m really pleased to see the HMT thread back!

The first episode didn’t disappoint for me, and I love AlohaMolly’s analysis I think it is spot on.

What I love about this programme is how much of an emotional journey it takes the viewer on, I have cried, I have whooped and jumped in the air, I have had to watch through my fingers at points, and I have also been left genuinely speechless.

Some of the moments which have had the most impact for me are the very first time we see Fred rape June in episode one with the beautiful hymn being sung contrasted by this atrocity happening in front of your eyes and June’s face as she tries to disassociate herself from what’s being done to her body is one of the most haunting things I’ve ever seen.

I also love the cleaning scene in the hotel it had a real sense of the hidden rebellion. And when Rita gets off the plane and is looking at the floor and cries my heart was right there with her in that moment of finding herself free, it was one of the most superb moments of acting I have ever seen.

JoJoandGreg · 27/06/2021 19:36

I'm not picking up on anything with Alma. Alma and June have always had an antagonistic relationship- Alma didn't want June to join MayDay in S1, for example.

DonttouchthatLarry · 27/06/2021 19:48

Can you believe I'd forgotten it was Sunday and it's on tonight?! It was a lovely surprise when I realised Grin

TheSpottedZebra · 27/06/2021 20:47

@DonttouchthatLarry

Can you believe I'd forgotten it was Sunday and it's on tonight?! It was a lovely surprise when I realised Grin
Yes! A Blessed Day indeed.

I'm not seeing the bad Alma thing either-i like her. She's the only other one who is bright, like June.

whatsthestory123 · 27/06/2021 20:57

im already and told the bug kids not to disturb me

whatsthestory123 · 27/06/2021 20:57

big

UhtredRagnarson · 27/06/2021 21:01

Blessed day all! Signing In for episode 2!

TheSpottedZebra · 27/06/2021 21:01

@whatsthestory123

im already and told the bug kids not to disturb me
Same!
Lazydaisydaydream · 27/06/2021 21:02

Just finished watching episode 1 so came to find this thread as last series I loved reading everyone else’s thoughts on it!!

I think the comments from June “good girl make me proud” were her acting the part that Mrs Keyes expected from her - she was excited that June was at the farm, she was expecting certain things from her and June has realised if she doesn’t deliver then she won’t be able to control Mrs Keyes.

The banana comment was heartbreaking to me and showed that June is there because she is trying to protect Hannah and won’t leave until she knows she’s safe.

Subtitles are absolutely necessary for this series though - couldn’t believe how much background stuff you wouldn’t pick up on without subtitles!

minou123 · 27/06/2021 21:03

Thanks for the thread. I like the other poster (can't remember the name) really enjoy reading all your perspectives.

It just shows how we all see the same thing differently. I think this is the power of HMT.

Faircastle · 27/06/2021 21:03

Here for episode 2!

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TheSpottedZebra · 27/06/2021 21:04

Ah, fed to the pigs, a thriller classic.