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Line of Duty thread 4 (No spoilers, please!)

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TedisnotH · 11/04/2021 20:44

Ok, I've started a new one in anticipation of Thread 3 filling up tonight, part way through the episode!

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pollywollydoodler · 12/04/2021 05:59

Coming out of left field a bit could Dale Roach be her dad?

UrgentExitRequiredLOD · 12/04/2021 06:26

Having just rewatched the episode again, one thing I noticed was Jo’s online name for the dodgy laptop comms is ‘User1976’ but according to her police record, she was born in 1979...

Line of Duty thread 4 (No spoilers, please!)
BloodyInternetFood · 12/04/2021 06:49

@UrgentExitRequiredLOD

Having just rewatched the episode again, one thing I noticed was Jo’s online name for the dodgy laptop comms is ‘User1976’ but according to her police record, she was born in 1979...
It's a covert chat, doubt the user names are anything personal!
Cadburydelights · 12/04/2021 07:13

@PrincessScarlett

And Chloe deliberately said about there being a leak in AC 12 to deflect from herself.
Also why did he get killed in prison if he said in front of chloe he didn't talk. I think Steve could have shared with her what he said maybe and thats how he got himself killed. They called him a rat so must know he spoke.
thecatsthecats · 12/04/2021 07:22

My husband is certain that he's picked up on a major clue that no one on here or twitter has spotted, so he wants me to post just in case he's a genius Grin

Twice, Jo referred to a "fresh slate" in the episode. It's not "fresh slate", it's "clean slate". The sort of thing you'd pick up from family...

... Not that we know who might have used that phrase.

(he got that from a Midsomer Murders episode Grin)

LaganinaBubble · 12/04/2021 07:29

@UrgentExitRequiredLOD

Having just rewatched the episode again, one thing I noticed was Jo’s online name for the dodgy laptop comms is ‘User1976’ but according to her police record, she was born in 1979...
Picking up on this theme again; I was sure that last week after Jo typed her message, you could then see that someone was typing a response but no response there now.
Ikeameatballs · 12/04/2021 07:31

Has anyone seen a plot summary for episode 5? On Line of Duty fandom is says that AC-12 link Gail Vella’s murder with an historic case of police corruption.

PrincessScarlett · 12/04/2021 07:34

Or Steve is the leak. He's the one that is deep undercover, not Kate. He wants to finish what Corbett started/wants revenge for Corbett's death. Would explain why Steph has such a big part this series.

Zampa · 12/04/2021 07:34

It will all go back to the care homes. Not sure how yet, but it will.

I agree @BoreOfWhabylon. Danny Waldron and Jo Davidson both live(d) on Croxford Street. Coincidence or deliberate?

(Flagged on Den of Geek. I'm not a super sleuth like some of you!).

YellowNotice · 12/04/2021 07:36

I think that Jo knows that she's done her bit and the OCG have no real use for her anymore (right now). So she is a dead woman walking unless she toes the line.

Her 'I'm finished' was superfluous to requirements.

ImAncient · 12/04/2021 07:38

It’s can’t be that everyone is corrupt surely?? But then even Ted is a bit as he took that money & gave it to Steph.

WhoWants2Know · 12/04/2021 07:40

Kate's corrupt, to some extent. She concealed that she was shagging Jane Akers' husband when his wife was killed, and that Jane had been trying to contact her before she died.

ChocBeforeCock · 12/04/2021 07:43

Was the implication that this nominal’s DNA was already on the database when Jo joined the force? Otherwise why would Steve say DNA certainly wasn’t run routinely when Jo joined?

That must narrow it down - as a DCI she has probably been in the force since before the events of series 1. Tommy Hunter’s wouldn’t even necessarily have been on there that far back (unless he was arrested for something random) and nor would any of the other names being suggested.

Firstaidnovice · 12/04/2021 07:45

Ref why Lakewell was killed even though he was at pains to say he hadn't talked in that interview; presumably the OCG have found out about the call to Gail Vella? Through either an AC12 leak (chloe is now the only character who would make sense for that now), or via the prison guard who was in the room when Steve and Chloe first went in.

It really does seem that someone involved in breaking Lakewell out for the interview must have leaked the information in some detail for the OCG to have set up that ambush. I guess what we don't know is how far up the chain of command that info would have gone. It was implied in Hastings meeting with Andrea Wise that AC12 didn't report upwards before making decisions and arrests etc to avoid leaks like this. Which would then point back at Chloe

WeeGobshiteBentBastard · 12/04/2021 07:47

@IDontDrinkTea

Trying to catch up but you’re all posting faster than I can read!

Just attaching these pictures to say she can’t be Corbetts sister as their dobs are only two months apart. Sorry if someone else has already said this

Excellent work IDontDrinkTea ! you have also just demolished my theory... But I am wondering why Steph's chatacter is in this series, there has to be some relevance to the John Corbett storyline {confused]

I don't think Chloe is bent. I don't think Jo is related to Hunter either, it seems to obvious - the Scottish connection ?

It's not a copper is it? so it must be a crim/suspect from a previous series. It couldn't be Gates as Jo's skin would surely be a different colour? so who does that leave? could she be related to Nick Huntley?

MsJuniper · 12/04/2021 07:48

She could be Corbett's sister if they share a father rather than a mother.

MoonCatcher · 12/04/2021 07:49

@ceeveebee

Subtitles said: “As we know sir, officers’ samples are stored on the system to exclude contamination of crime scenes. Now, an officer’s DNA isn’t speculatively examined on a routine basis, and certainly wasn’t back when Davidson joined the force. Because the DNA deposits detected at the house weren’t assumed to relate solely to a police officer, they were compared against the whole system. The analysis detected partial matches to a nominal whose DNA is stored on other police databases. He’s identified over the page”
This is very helpful, thank you. I thought at first the "other police forces" referred to a database held by a different police force to the LoD one, but it actually means a database other than the one with police officer details.
Templetreebalm · 12/04/2021 07:50

@ImAncient

It’s can’t be that everyone is corrupt surely?? But then even Ted is a bit as he took that money & gave it to Steph.
That was my theory on thread 3 . Where is the line?

There isnt one -everyone has their own interpretation .

NoWordForFluffy · 12/04/2021 07:51

How long is it since DNA samples were kept? That will help us decide how long ago it could possibly be.

I don't think it's recent, necessarily. Chloe and Steve were confused because of any criminal link, not the actual link, potentially.

Firstaidnovice · 12/04/2021 07:52

My theory as to why Steph is in this series is that Hastings will finally uncover the corruption right to the top (wise/sindwhani/Osborne some combo of these three), save AC12 from closure, big celebration, then will be brought down by the £50k being discovered

NoWordForFluffy · 12/04/2021 07:53

@MsJuniper

She could be Corbett's sister if they share a father rather than a mother.
Then why are people saying the photo in her flat is John's mum? That makes no sense if it's that way round.
WeeGobshiteBentBastard · 12/04/2021 07:54

Could she be related to someone on Danny's list of abusers from Sandsview Home? that's possible....?

ImAncient · 12/04/2021 07:57

Firstaidnovice 👏👏👏👏 great theory. I like it.

Apart from one thing.

I. Do. Not. Want. Hastings. Brought. Down.

Bluntness100 · 12/04/2021 08:00

@ChocBeforeCock

Was the implication that this nominal’s DNA was already on the database when Jo joined the force? Otherwise why would Steve say DNA certainly wasn’t run routinely when Jo joined?

That must narrow it down - as a DCI she has probably been in the force since before the events of series 1. Tommy Hunter’s wouldn’t even necessarily have been on there that far back (unless he was arrested for something random) and nor would any of the other names being suggested.

I agree, it’s a really complex sentence, the writing is usually excellent so there must be a reason they made it this complex. Most of us were like “wtf does that mean”.
CheekyWeeShite · 12/04/2021 08:01

@lolacola77

I'm watching again. There's a huge graffiti H in between Kate and Ted in the piss tunnel...

I think Jo's son is the young Paul McCartney-ish robber of the bookies. I noticed in episode one that she showed so much emotion in the convoy scenes. Her and Buckles are being used by the OCG. Mother of God

This is the best theory so far - I considered it because of his insertion in the recap and episode, and was unsure they’d do that just to discuss the guns... but then I think Chloe would have understood the significance.

Wait, what was Jo’s reaction when the armed robber was shot? She reacted really badly right - and we thought it was just because she didn’t want someone shot but maybe this is why?

I think the only reason Lakewell said “not balaclava man, balaclava men” on that tape is because he said it when he was outed which helped Steve recognised his voice.