Whos going to watch the Undoing?

[EachandEveryone]

Starts tomorrow night on Sky Atlantic with a “fresh” faced Nicole Kidman and Hugh Grant. It looks good and I love glamorous New York 😃

@Rollergirl11

*SPOILER**

So did NK leak the conversation she had with HG’s Mum to the lawyer friend so it could be fed to the prosecution? Wasn’t that a bit risky? Couldn’t she have been charged with purgery if it was shown she was lying?

That’s what I thougtt it

So she dropped hg in it

Esp after he accused henry

@BookShark

I'm just annoyed that I read somewhere (maybe on here?) about HG's character being the murderer in book. Spent the last three episodes trying to forget it and failed! I quite liked the twist in the courtroom though - genuinely thought she was going to support him when she offered to go on the stand.

Yes on here

Someone wrote what happened in the book

He was the killer but you knew that from Day one

I don’t like knowing what books say incase runs with it as the tv

Which seems it did

@Mindymomo

I think the tipping point was when he accused Henry

Absolutely. Shame we couldn’t see the thought process mirrored in NK’s face as she figured out what to do but it really was the final straw. And also he did turn around and say it was her in an earlier episode - in public when the paparazzi caught them arguing. Her whole motivation to prove his innocence was to support Henry. If there was a chance Jonathon was not guilty it was for Henry.
Crap hiding of the hammer. Really. Why it wasn’t at the bottom of the Hudson River is bizarre. Another example of his narcissistic personality and how he could convince everyone he was in innocent. Makes great telly though.
Also in defence of Nicole’s face that is a very common look in Manhattan women. Completely frozen forehead, waxy complexion and puffy filled in naso-labial line ( the diagonal line from the nose corner to the lip) so that realistic. But in certain light it was mask-like and very scary.
I could go on and on and the acting was superlative.

I haven’t watched it since episode three because I just thought it was a bit of puff and not very good
Watched last night and again it was just vaguely ludicrous how the hell did Nicole Kidman give chasing in a helicopter make any sense and then Donald Sutherland suddenly popped up and was apparently also in the helicopter was it his helicopter?

I’m surprised that there was so much coverage about its quality and the mystery it was bloody obviously he killed her

Very disappointing

I think the clinch moment was when Henry told her where he'd found the hammer. That meant it couldn't have been any other suspect, and she knew beyond a doubt that it wouldn't have been Henry.

When he tried to twist it to throw suspicion on their son, she knew she had to point the finger at him in a very careful way, so that he was nailed for it before being able to throw Henry to the wolves.

Ok what was the conversation NK had with her lawyer friend about? Was it she was feeding the prosecutor? What was the point of Migual in the stand it went nowhere

It was shite tbh, flying around in helicopters the pair of them, ridiculous stuff and the 2 gobdaw cops standing there

Normally I'm the first to moan about an anti-climactic ending of a series, but I thought this one was pretty satisfying. Nicole Kidman's face, unfortunately, was the distraction of the whole series, as were the number of VERY dodgy "American" accents from the obviously non-American ensemble. (--although I worship Sofie Grabol, so she gets a pass)

The murder itself was particularly brutal, I thought.

I think she was getting lawyer friend to feed info to the prosecution, which I thought lawyer friend was doing all along (obviously not to NK's knowledge) so I was kind of right with that suspicion

The convo with her lawyer friend Sylvia was to get Sylvia to tip off the prosecution (Sarah Lund!) re the death of HG’s sister/her convo with his mother. The scene with Sylvia and prosecutor in the loos where prosecutor said that putting Miguel on the stand was vile is clearly the precursor to Sylvia spilling all.

I think the Miguel scene was there to show how good HG’s lawyer was and how even in the face of all the evidence it’s difficult to nail a privileged white man. The fact it did undermine Alvez’s alibi might also have (1) cast doubt in the audience that HG really did it and (2) pushed NK to realise that she needed to take the stand as it looked like HG might get away with it.

I have just read all the other comments. Strangely, even though I am in my fifties, perhaps because I am in an innocent rural location, I am oblivious to botox etc. So I, whoever never been a great NK fan, didn't note plastic surgery etc at all. Just thought she was acting mysterious (which she did need to do to support the plot and make it any sort of cliff-hanger).

Does everyone else find her surgery very obvious. I just thought she looked quite attractive but was curiously inscrutable.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think if it had ended up being anyone but HG after that, it would have been a ridiculous twist.
Yeah it was unreal, but it was just a story.
Those flashback scenes were terrifying. I thought his acting was magnificent in the way he portrayed the charm versus the terrible temper.
I was on the edge of my seat for the safety of his son at the end.
I just discovered that Noah Jupe, the actor, is the son of a coronation street actor. He was fantastic. I think they all were.
I still think NK is very beautiful, but it does make me sad that so many women feel the need to have work done. But it was quite relevant to the story as I imagine a lot of women in the character's position would not grow old gracefully.
HG is still very attractive ime.
There was a lot of eye candy in the whole thing. And clever, if unbelievable at times.

So it was him all along.

NK had to ensure he was banged up. Clearly DS hated him despite paying for his lawyer.

I don't know what I was expecting to happen - am pleased that there was a twist - of sorts - and did have to hide behind my hands when he was driving towards the bridge..

With all this talk about NK's cosmetic work. It's obviously something she's keen on. Wouldn't you think she'd have a word with Donald Sutherland and his flipping eyebrows? They were hideous. I think most barbers do a little tidy up don't they? Ears as well.
Dennis healey lives on

I was impressed by HG as I wasn't sure if he did it right until the end. He's become a far more subtle actor as he's got older.
There was a lot of talk about how Grace lost herself and when her Dad told her that she used to be able to see her way through problems she found herself again and worked out how to protect her son and get hg convicted. His undoing was her reforming herself.

Her reaction to the police didn't surprise me. Police work is seen as lower class and a bit grubby, so she wouldn't want to talk to them because they're beneath her and intruding on her very carefully protected life. I teach in a private school in the US. Some of the details were wrong, but they had the feel of the private school completely spot on.

@Franke

Trying2Heal me too. The scene before the actual murder where he was slamming her head against the wall was more shocking for me than the murder itself. And remember the jail scene where he got into a fight and bit the guy's finger quite savagely? A mild precursor (in the storyline) to his violence.

Yes, what a turnaround.

I am ashamed to say (because I devour psychological thrillers and can usually tell the ending at week 2 or chapter 2!!) that I was convinced it was not HG, right up to those flashback scenes . I thought NK had found out about the affair and had set him up.

I know she was not going to support him, how on earth the lawyer gets paid so much and could not see that coming was one of the blunders I will not forgive!!!! (along with letting the child in the courtroom when they showed the murder scene photos and NK terrible "on valium" acting).

I thought it would've been ridiculous and annoying if it wasn't him. He was sleeping with the victim, didn't have an alibi, scarpered afterwards and no one else's dna was at the scene. Also they were quite heavy handed about the dog thing, when it was brought up I thought "oh that's a weird random thing it must be relevant".
The absolute wealth of Nicole's dad was making me laugh, oh yes let's just pop in the helicopter! Ridiculous.

The whole thing was entertaining but ultimately forgettable!

Also hated the repeated scenes of her being bludgeoned. No idea why that was necessary.

DD and I were discussing last night, as we watched this, the part where they were clueless about the legal system and we reminded ourselves that rich people in the US (and indeed in most other countries) never need to understand the criminal legal system or even bother knowing about it because they never have that little niggle (that the rest of us do even if it is only in the dimmest recess of our mind) that there but for the grace of God, go I.

I think the series was actually a very good commentary on the rich of NY and their "not really with us" lifestyle, even if nothing else. I mean, DD and I kept commenting that they were the most unappealing characters we had ever watched (although yesterday's thread on SATC reminded me that Carrie B and her team were as un-relatable) and we didn't care who actually did it as long as someone ended up going to jail for it, unlike in Big Little Lies, where I wanted her to get away with it.

Yes - the wealth of the "upper middle classes" and their arrogance can be breath-taking. I also thought the school in Big Little Lies was a very accurate portrayal of private schools in the US. how everything has a polite veneer but under that everyone's just protecting their own interests.

Wonder what the significance of the opening credits was? Presume the child was Grace, with that distinctive hair.

@Clawdy

Wonder what the significance of the opening credits was? Presume the child was Grace, with that distinctive hair.

A chance for NK to sing? I can't see any other reason - although the song had an earwig quality and I have been singing it for the past 5 weeks (even noticed DH humming it at the weekend so my signing must have been louder than I thought.

I wondered if the opening credits portrayed HG's sister? Perhaps showing her last moments before the horrific accident. The little girl certainly resembled NK, which throws up all sorts of psychological conundrums re whether HG chose NK as his wife because she resembled his lost sister....

I shall take off my pseudo psych hat now.

The flashback scenes were horrible. Susanne Bier did well making that scene horrific. My husband winced and looked away and he's usually a hardened sort to screen violence. (Then again, he recently watched a documentary on male violence to women and was very moved/disturbed by it so the issue was a bit raw - he came by to where I was sitting that day saying how horrible it was and very carefully asked if I'd like some more coffee #notawifebeater clearly!)

I think the Elena character was a bit miscast. She didn't really have the force to make a genuine person, it was all just body, ie who can we get who'd be willing to take her clothes off. To be blunt. She didn't have much to work with, granted, but it was all rather shallow.

The actress playing Elena is just 25. The boy playing her son is 13. I wasn't very comfortable with the casting & nature of her character, the showing of her body and the repeated shots of violence against her - it seemed dodgy.

I agree ScribblingPixie no need for showing all the bludgeoning. I think we needed a little more about Elena and her backstory/attitude. Feel sorry for her baby, NK won't be bringing her up and Elena's husband said he didn't love the child as she is not his.