The Crown Series 4

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Anyone else getting excited? The Diana trailer looks great. It's on Netflix on 15th November.

For those also watching The Queens Gambit

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littlebitupset brilliant!

@littlebitupset 😂😂😂

@littlebitupset fab!

I thought Fergie’s dress was much nicer and flattering

I think Fergie's dress is very underrated. Given how ghastly the fashions of the day were, her dress has aged quite well, the unforunate bow at the back notwithstanding.

@Smallsteps88

it made me empathise with some characters and look up various historical events etc.

it has probably taken me twice as long as everyone else to watch this show from series 1 as I keep pausing to google people and fall down a royal history rabbit hole! its fascinating.

@Mookie81! Yes! This is me!

Mookie81 and me

Me too! Although I generally wait until the episode is over before I start googling. I've learnt so much about historical events and people from this series. It really brings them to life, albeit in a dramatized version of the events.

I saw fergies dress (or was it a replica?) at Madame Tussaud's not long after the wedding. It was exquisite and the beading was beautiful

I also loved Diana's dress-thought it was very "her", although it was pretty much of its time & not as "simple" as some Royal wedding dresses have been.

I think my current fave is Beatrice's!

It took me about 2 episodes to get back my Crown Mojo.
I think everyone is playing their parts really well but Josh O'Connor isn't as good as he was in series 3.

I wasn't sure about Olivia Colman as HMQ until episode 8 of series 3, but she's definitely got it now, the staunch duty, kindness, good heart but also bewildered about/with emotions so she just blocks it all out & comes across as unfeeling & a bit Pollyanna-ish.

There definitely is a a lot of dramatic license in this series with merging of facts & fiction.
I can understand why the royal family & others are not entirely pleased with some of it.

@Taytocrisps

Me too! Although I generally wait until the episode is over before I start googling. I've learnt so much about historical events and people from this series. It really brings them to life, albeit in a dramatized version of the events.

Yes, even where they get it wrong you can always fact check.

think my current fave is Beatrice's!
I think Beatrice wore the Queen's own dress. It was lovely.

Diana's dress was in the era of the New Romantics. All those 18th century style bows, ribbons and flounces were fashionable. I dont think it mattered that it was creased. It was in keeping with the loose crushed silk style anyway

@CaptainMyCaptain

think my current fave is Beatrice's! I think Beatrice wore the Queen's own dress. It was lovely.

Yes, it was.

A Norman Hartnell from the 60s!

And the same tiara that HM wore for her own wedding.

She obviously thinks a lot of her GD!

I really liked Beatrice's dress, all the more for it being vintage. I don't know why more of them don't do that.

@HermioneWeasley

I have no idea whether there’s any truth in the suggestion the the NYC trip was the start of her realising how she could wield her profile for good, but I thought it was very moving.

I’m sure on a personal level she was difficult, but she was an immense, global, force for good - something the rest of the royal family haven’t managed. Anyone know what Kate Middleton feels strongly about? Name a charity she supports? A difference she’s made?

Early years, and mental health. And she supports some children's hospice charities, I believe (probably others too). I can completely understand why Kate wants to tread gently and behave discreetly. She's a team player with her eye on the long game. And since Diana's heyday in the 80s, it's become painfully clear to the RF that too much press attention and personal "celebrity" is a double-edged sword. William loved his mother but he didn't love the public drama, and Kate will be very conscious of that.

I've just finished watching and gutted that my binge watch is over. Looking forward to the next one.

I've just caught up on this thread. It's more entertaining than The Crown!
I think GA is awful as Thatcher. She's played her the same from beginning to end whereas Thatcher was more hale and hearty at the beginning, grew into a powerful head of state and then declined. GA plays her as though she was always in decline and overly emotional. I agree with a PP that said there seems to be a problem with the female characters this time round. I wasn't a fan of Thatcher but to portray her as someone flapping round a kitchen and starting a war because her son was lost ... well, it's nonsense.
I was laughing at the comments on Diana's ballet technique and her dance sequences. I don't think the incompetence was deliberate. I read an interview with the actress and she said everyone on set was crying after one of her interpretative-dances-of-an-unhappy-marriage scenes. It brought it home to me that those involved in The Crown didn't anticipate how some of the Diana scenes were going to land at all. They were too in love with their fairytale princess to see the manipulative and cringiness of some of her behaviour.

@IcedPurple

That's the reason Gary Lineker wouldn't appear on something Carling was on at the time - Ali Cockayne was his sister in law.

Gary Linekar wasn't exactly an exemplary husband himself.

Pot, kettle.

She obviously thinks a lot of her GD!

@diddl something to do with her being a daughter of her favourite son perhaps

I just can't get over the casting of Erin Doherty as Princess Anne. Last I saw her she was in a small theatre in Mold in a fabulous musical called Junkyard that hasn't had the exposure it deserves. Wickedly funny, dropping f-bombs and the C word soooo many times. Then singning with a beautiful voice and tugging on your heartstrings. I couldn't place her for a while, with those cut glass tones (didn't watch series 3 and am only picking it up again with series 4).

She was great as Princess Anne, Madeline.

I loved series 4, will watch it all again.