MAFS Down Under Series Five - Come on . . . join us on the dark side . . you know you want to . . . [grin[

[SchadenfreudePersonified]

Ready for the next car crash carnage - please fill up other thread first. I'm sure you can think of something.

(If anyone else has started a thread, let me know and I'll delete this one.

Haha, I was coming on to say they were like Bert and Ernie in bed 😅

Tracey reminded me of Carol Vorderman

And I was also wondering who paid for, chose venues and dresses.

This one is definitely on a budget if the first two weddings are anything to go on.
I was blown away (not really, just getting into the MAFSA vibe) by the lovely dresses, venues last time.

Has anyone realised that Spoony and the actor Christopher Lee are one and the same person yet?

I can't post photos but there is some weird cosmic thing going on right there and no mistake.

Oh!!!! It's just occurred to me that the singles didn't meet each other before the weddings this time! Have they done away with all of that? Or will they meet for reunion dinners still?

Oh yes - no stag and hen nights!

Agree about the children thing. It would be ok if it was a discussion point at application stage and candidates agreed they were fine with a partner with children. I don't think it's fair to spring a surprise like a child on someone and to not make it the first priority to let a new partner know, as it would change the whole dynamic. I also think it's unfair on the child to have a stranger join their family and live with them.
Overthinking, I know!

@Eaumyword

Agree about the children thing. It would be ok if it was a discussion point at application stage and candidates agreed they were fine with a partner with children. I don't think it's fair to spring a surprise like a child on someone and to not make it the first priority to let a new partner know, as it would change the whole dynamic. I also think it's unfair on the child to have a stranger join their family and live with them. Overthinking, I know!

I agree with this. I was pretty shocked that the groom here clearly had not considered the bride might have a nipper. You would think he must have ticked a box saying he would be OK with this but it's obvious this came out of left field for him. Morally wrong and awful for the child.

Ultimately the child might live with them but considering the success, or should I say, failure rate of the experiment, and the fact the couples live in MAFS apartments for filming, they won't be living with the DCs until at least four or five months into the relationship.
The 'experts' should probably tell the bride or groom about the DC when they tell them they have found a match ie 'you're getting married, the person has an 8-yr-old' But it's not as dramatic as the wedding dinner reveal.

I don’t think the UK one lets people with children take part.

I can’t remember what was actually said but didn’t Sarah and Telv discover that they lived fairly near each to other or at least had relatives living close ? Perhaps the production company realise that putting couples at either end of the country ruins their experiment .

When did we/Susan discover that Sean had children ? Can’t remember it being a problem other than it was one of the reasons that Sean wouldn’t/couldn’t move .

I guess , judging by the wedding ring , that expert ( psychobabble - ist) John Aiken is married . Would love to be a fly on the wall of their home with all the attendant “my - back - having” , “door-finding” , “journeying” that entails .

Off to bed they went on their honeymoon, with a full face of makeup.

Doesn't everyone?

Seriously though - I worked with a girl who was ALWAYS in full slap - she was a lovely-looking, very smart woman; had been married 10 years or so - her husband had never seen her without make-up. She worse it in bed ("refreshed" it apparently before going to be; put fresh on in the morning before he shifted his lazy *rse got up; topped it up during the day so that she always looked stunning (apparently Mr Make-Up liked"smart women"). She aways had his breakfast etc ready for him and was quite shocked that Mr Schaden often had to just snatch himself some bread and jam if he lay in bed too late for a proper breakfast, because I wasn't his mother and wasn't going to chase round after him (I used to shout for him twice if he lay in, and after that, it was on his own head).

Thumbface would have LOVED her (she had a huge "chestal area", too, and wore low cut tops a lot).

Except one day she upped and left her husband - just (literally) walked out with the clothes on her back and moved in with a lad she'd met at work. He was quite an ordinary looking bloke - pleasant enough, but well below her "level" IYKWIM. I often wondered what her marriage to the supposedly perfect Mr Make-Up must have been like.

It caused a huge scandal at the time. Nowadays I just think "Poor girl. She must have been living in hell". I'd love to meet her again and see how she was doing. I hope it worked out for her.

They must have to tick a box on their application form that says whether they mind or not. I’m sure they mentioned something about Abandrew saying he was happy to be with a woman with children, when he was matched to Lauren.

Telv has kids too, no one seems to be making a big deal about whether or not he’s told Sarah.

I agree that going into this process as a parent is different, and don’t think it makes you look great, but there are some major double standards when it comes to men having children versus women.

@SchadenfreudePersonified

Off to bed they went on their honeymoon, with a full face of makeup.

Doesn't everyone?

Seriously though - I worked with a girl who was ALWAYS in full slap - she was a lovely-looking, very smart woman; had been married 10 years or so - her husband had never seen her without make-up. She worse it in bed ("refreshed" it apparently before going to be; put fresh on in the morning before he shifted his lazy *rse got up; topped it up during the day so that she always looked stunning (apparently Mr Make-Up liked"smart women"). She aways had his breakfast etc ready for him and was quite shocked that Mr Schaden often had to just snatch himself some bread and jam if he lay in bed too late for a proper breakfast, because I wasn't his mother and wasn't going to chase round after him (I used to shout for him twice if he lay in, and after that, it was on his own head).

Thumbface would have LOVED her (she had a huge "chestal area", too, and wore low cut tops a lot).

Except one day she upped and left her husband - just (literally) walked out with the clothes on her back and moved in with a lad she'd met at work. He was quite an ordinary looking bloke - pleasant enough, but well below her "level" IYKWIM. I often wondered what her marriage to the supposedly perfect Mr Make-Up must have been like.

It caused a huge scandal at the time. Nowadays I just think "Poor girl. She must have been living in hell". I'd love to meet her again and see how she was doing. I hope it worked out for her.

Yes I’ve known people like this. One woman who would go and get changed and put on make up before her dh got home from work. It was crazy. He was a dick and cheating on her left right and centre, but they’re still together because she will put up with anything.

Their pillows must be disgusting and need washing every day. It can’t be good for your skin. Mr Rinder would be appalled if I felt the need to disguise myself around him.

I really want to know what Sarah looks like under the slap, I bet she’s still gorgeous.

I agree with this. I was pretty shocked that the groom here clearly had not considered the bride might have a nipper

But it wouldn't surprise me if he had a couple by different girls, that the was always arguing about having to pay for, and grudgingly supplying the minimum amount of maintenance, three months late . . .

And insisting on parental rights of visitation, taking them out for the day and leaving them with his mother for 8 hours while he went on the razz.

I really want to know what Sarah looks like under the slap, I bet she’s still gorgeous

I think so, too - she has a beautiful complexion.

Mr Rinder would be appalled if I felt the need to disguise myself around him

Mr Schaden would probably be thrilled! I frighten horses round here!

Aren't his parents dead?
Although I agree with the sentiment that he is definitely being portrayed as though he'd be a fathers for justice / disney dad type if anyone was deluded enough to have children with him.

Mr Schaden would probably be thrilled! I frighten horses round here!

It must take flipping hours though. Who has that sort of time to spare on colouring yourself in?

@SusansSassySidePony

Aren't his parents dead? Although I agree with the sentiment that he is definitely being portrayed as though he'd be a fathers for justice / disney dad type if anyone was deluded enough to have children with him.

Yes and he even said he wanted to have kids for his mother, because she always wanted lots of grandchildren. That comment felt really wrong somehow, but they seemed to be suggesting it makes Thumbface all soft and emotional. Just because he’s sad that his mum died, doesn’t make him a caring person. The experts really don’t care that they’re matching this monster with a real person. He is so much worse than Abandrew and Anthony put together. He’s controlling, macho and has so little respect for women that he doesn’t actually see them as people at all.

It must take flipping hours though. Who has that sort of time to spare on colouring yourself in?

LOL!

Exactly!

He married me knowing that it was likely that strange dogs would attack me in the street - on his own head be it! What he saw was what he got.

I know that grief affects different people in different ways - so I'm reluctant to judge(I'm going to, obviously - sorry) - but when I think of Simon's obvious deep emotional pain at losing his dad, and compare it with Thumbface's blithe "she wanted grandkids" (almost making use of his mum's death to present himself in a good light), I find it even harder to warm to him.

All my Spidey senses are tingling around him, I'm afraid.

@SchadenfreudePersonified

I know that grief affects different people in different ways - so I'm reluctant to judge(I'm going to, obviously - sorry) - but when I think of Simon's obvious deep emotional pain at losing his dad, and compare it with Thumbface's blithe "she wanted grandkids" (almost making use of his mum's death to present himself in a good light), I find it even harder to warm to him.

All my Spidey senses are tingling around him, I'm afraid.

Yeah, same. I don’t see grief as a redeeming feature. It’s awful and terrible for everyone, but it’s not a character trait. It seems like they’re trying to suggest that it is and shows a softer side, which is bollocks. Grief is painful and hard and a good expert would say “you’re not ready for this process until you’re grieved” instead of “look! His grief gives him depth beyond his blatant misogyny! He can’t be that awful if he loved his mum.”

Psycho loved his mum.

Yes totally agree that grief seems to be a big 'plus' for contestants. So weird. Like they have automatically acquired depth and empathy.

I think Sarah is really vulnerable having gone through a breakup then subsequent twin miscarriage. I think the experts have not really adhered to any kind of duty of care.

sarah should not be in this. she seems very vunerable.

I know they DO NOT get married on this show legally, but still, she seems far too vunerable for anyone to want to be commited to without knowing her back story (or look like an arse when they don't want to stay with her due to how recent it all was)

I think sean had older kids? like teens. But yes, a double standard of whether they are raising their child or the child lives with the other parent. But thats what people would consider in real life

Would i want to be step mum to a widower who had a 3 year old full time - NO WAY
what about a man with kids in their 20s who had own homes? - maybe

Yes - ages and residency of children is a huge deal.

Tracey being resident parent for an 8yo changes everything about lifestyle. School runs/holidays. Leisure time and clubs.