Self-justifying attention-seeking strategies and manipulative psychoses in Aussie faux-scientific anthropological claptrap. MAFS Part Deux.

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Hello All.

I hope it's bonza that I took the liberty of starting a second thread - just didn't want us gong walkabout in the bush (pardon my Fronch ) if we ran out of the other (whoops did it again!)

Seeing the difference in body language from Simon is enormous. He started off so completely awkward and now he’s all smooth moves and relaxed. Watching them go from uncomfortable strangers to really close has been a joy. They seem like the only couple who genuinely hasn’t forced anything and have let things happen at their own pace, despite the stupid experts trying to hurry things along. Simon is so fragile just under the surface and Alene is so lovely and kind. I’m glad her bridesmaid backed off him. She is another weirdly protective friend. She decided Simon was an awful racist before they’d even met.

Cherylina, I think Jesse brings out the mother in me. He’s definitely dopey, but there’s nothing malicious about him. He wants to make Michelle happy but he never stood a chance. I wonder if watching her disappointment on their wedding day finally got through to him. Poor Jesse is just a pawn in the twins’ game of dress up.

Jesse always talks like he is drunk or has had a stroke .. isn sure he isn't the brightest spark but I'm not sure if it's just him or he has had some sort of illness .. he would Never 'pull ' a girl like Nichelle in real life would he .? Her face when they went to the fruit stall the first time and his dad said she would be great on it !!😱😱😂

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Did Jesse write that letter? Because the way he read it, it seemed like the first time he’d seen the words. But he was obviously quite taken with the word door. Door, door, door.

The more I see of Jesse, the more I think that there is something not quite right about him (seriously). Whether he has a minor cognitive deficit, or some sort of neurological problem, I don't know, but there definitely seems to be an . . . atypicality . . . about him. I wonder if there is? If that's why his family were so rapidly anti-'Shell? Because they feel protective about him.

Michelle making him read the letter aloud was cruel (but obviously for the benefit of viewers at home).

I don't think Sharon will stay with Nick, either - though she did seem very emotional which I must admit surprised me. His photo album was appallingly amateur - I'd love to know if these grand gestures are their own idea, or suggested by the production team.

"You need a romantic gesture"

"Well - I suppose I could rip up my membership card to "Busty Babes and Big Bums Stripperama and burn it in front of her"

"FFS - NO! Don't remind anyone of that! Just . . . I don't know . . . stick a few pictures in a photo album or something. We'll dig you some out."

"Bonza, mate" "So I can keep me membership, too! Win-win. Happy wife - "

"Just SHUT UP! you great tin of soup!"

Interesting you say this, as my friend (who is able to diagnose such things) is convinced AnTHony has high functioning autism.

I do keep thinking about poor Jessilla shoving his food in looking like a gorilla

Jesse

I honestly had to check I wasn't re watching Friday's episode. It was just full of recaps. Awful.

Yy to Jesse having some kind of cognitive anomaly. He was struggling to read that letter he'd written.

Also the bullshit comment from Nadia wasn't shown.

Last night I dreamt of Shakin Steven's and his "green DOOR"

Michelle really needs to move far away from her twin. The more I see, the more sympathy I have for her. All her issues stem from her sister treating her like the faulty version.

THIS ^

In Spades

Last night I dreamt of Shakin Steven's and his "green DOOR"

SHAZZA!!! Joans3rd has had a DREEEEEEEEAAAM about a DOOOOOOR!

A DOOOOOooooOOOR, Shazza! Maybe you'd better warn, Mish! You know how important it is to listen to your DREEEAAAAMMS! It was about a DoooOOOOooooR!

Interesting you say this, as my friend (who is able to diagnose such things) is convinced AnTHony has high functioning autism.

I wonder if the TV people intentionally choose participants that they can manipulate, but who will be unaware that they are being "managed".

I thought Antony had HFA too.. he is very literal and they way he got stuck on a loop about Cheryl ( wtf has it got to do with him) and was sooo rude to her and didn't know he had been rude was a pointer to hfa for sure .

If Spoony is autistic then he also lacks empathy on top of that. I think his defining feature either way is his lack of empathy and utter selfishness combined with a carefulmy masked very low sense of self worth. Deep down he knows he doesn’t deserve Nadia, which is why he has to break her down to keep her. He has to have the power.

I’m not convinced he’s autistic, I think he’s just extremely controlling, which isn’t the same thing at all.

I think his rudeness is calculated though I could be wrong. He is unable to admit he’s wrong because that would threaten his sense of self (Anthony is always right). And that is my pop-psychobabble for the morning!

I’ve really annoyed myself by googling what they are all doing now 🙈

Oh no!

It’s hard to resist

Very!

I wonder if they will show the next series when this one has finished

I’m worried this week’s episodes will just drag on with nothing else really happening. I suspect they might all go through with the stupid pointless ceremony just to say they got to the end. I hope there are good follow ups of what happened next.

Found this pic of Spoony before he had a shave

I have the same sinking feeling Rinder.

That must have been before life harden and embittered him, Lunchbox.

There is a spark of humanity in his eyes.

TBH, I'm with I’m not convinced he’s autistic, I think he’s just extremely controlling, which isn’t the same thing at all comment.

My DD's on "the spectrum" and she's very kind and thoughtful - just very literal, can't read between the lines in situations, and has a tendency to over-explain everything. If anything she gets bullied rather than is bullying.

Yeah, most autistic people I know are lovely. It doesn’t mean autistic people can’t be arseholes too, but I’m not convinced he’s showing enough traits.

He just comes across as having been raised to not consider anyone else’s feelings ever. Which is nurture rather than nature.

Loving this thread almost as much - if not more than - the programme!

Also loving Simon! The wedding video and his cheesy line about seeing her in his dream was so cringe, but the contrast between that and him serenading her along with the guitar player was just beautiful.

Even if they don’t stay together, it makes me happy that they had those moments and that hopefully he can go on to meet someone else who will appreciate him as he is now, rather than being the slightly weird, crazy-curly haired, quiet man he was before!