THERE SHE GOES - s2 - bbc 2 Thur 930

[Blondeshavemorefun]

I saw this last year. Very thought prevocking And cleverly done

Comedy drama that shines a light on the day-to-day life of a family looking after their severely learning disabled nine-year-old girl, Rosie.

It flicks from 2007 and born and 2017 life 10yrs later and parents getting answers

Worth seeing s1 if haven’t seen it but can watch and follow if haven’t

Good episode again tonight

Neighbour really isn’t helpful

Did she give up work in the end as took too nursery 10yrs ago but seem to be with Rosie all day Years later

Brave taking to pub But too stressful for mum

Dad useless as always :(

@x2boys

It's a black comedy ,I can see why people would ,nt see it as funny ,but my child has very similar needs to Rosie and personally I find some parts very funny ,admittedly I do have a very dark sense of humour ,goes with the territory maybe?Everything Rosie does I can imagine my son doing ,sometimes you have to laugh or you would cry .

I sometimes think they've been watching DS2 and taking notes. Ds1's face fell when Rosie started flicking light switches :o (Ds2 does it to wind him up!)

I watched tonight's and ended up watching all the rest after this time.
They did make laugh more
I think it's a brilliant programme. It's moving and affecting and shows how they're just trying to muddle through it all and how it's not all perfect

I thought it was a repeat. I really enjoyed season 1 so will definitely watch now. Thanks for starting this thread.

I think it touches me as have friends And family with children with sn

And harder in this series as not much is known about Rosie condition

Again I think she is a fab actress for one so young

I think she's really good too

The colleague of Simon,s in the pub was,nt really helping I'm sure she was trying to be nice using Makaton and trying to communicate with Rosie but Emily know,s what works for Rosie ,often " helpful" people make things worse .

I love the series. I binged watched both at the respective times.
No personal experience with a child with SEN but the family dynamics are so well observed it’s relatable on a lot of levels.

DH was watching last night and said 'I just couldn't cope with that'. I think you just cope when you have to, maybe the father finds it easier to opt out while the mother just gets on with it, more bonded to the baby maybe. Not sure about the statistics but I have observed women coping on their own with children with sen.

You have to cope ,what else can you do? Parents of children with disabilities dont have an innate ability to cope ,we are just normal people muddling through which is why this show is so good ,it shows the reality and that the parents like all parents make mistakes and are not perfect but they love their children and are trying to do the best for both of them

Quite. My DH doesn't have any children at all BTW so probably doesn't get this whereas I have. You do what you have to do. I have worked with children with sen although not had to deal with them 24 hours a day. I have noticed it can take a toll on a marriage

Yes it can quite often ,Dh and I are still together and relatively happy ,but neither of us are perfect by any stretch of the imagination,and like Emily and Simon we have our moments particularly in the early days .I think it helps that I don't work now ,it was impossible really for both of us to work.

I think Em works from home now? In the first series she took on some work and negotiated not to go into the office.
Both series are bloody brilliant and so realistic. I was blazing for them this series when the first nursery blithely said they couldn’t support Rosie any more and when she was falsely accused of pooing in the pool. Em saying how about childcare providers considering if they deserve to have Rosie’s attendance was fantastic.

Havnt seen that episode yet

@changenamez

I watched it and thought it was well written. Made me sad as I was the sibling in the family growing up.

It has come on a couple of times after the programme we have been watching and my (adult) son has wanted to turn it over, because it makes him really uncomfortable. He can't really say why, but partly because the subject matter is close to home (his brother), but also because the girl isn't actually disabled (obviously they couldn't get a child with that sort of disability to play the role) and he doesn't feel comfortable with her pretending to be.

It’s difficult, isn’t it, Artie. We’re so used to the sounds and behaviour being used to mock that it can be difficult to adjust to someone playing a part in a serious way.
I think it’s sensitively done and the actor isn’t focused on inappropriately. She’s not ‘performing’ disability any more than Jessica Hynes is ‘performing’ PND in th flashbacks. Lots of her stuff is background rather than at the forefront. Weirdly, I feel more embarrassed for her when the characters around her seem embarrassed, if that makes sense? In the setting of family or school she’s just accepted for who she is.

Shows how we’ve still a long way to go though.

It wouldn’t have been fair to use a child with sn to act that way

So they were right to cast and able bodied child’

I think she is very talented and acts how a clever but maybe frustrated sn child with Roses complex issues

I agree @Blondeshavemorefun, a child with that degree and type of SN wouldn't have been able to play the part. Obviously, there are actors with Downs, for instance, who are very good actors.

I hope people with no experience of SN watch the programme so if they see a child having an apparent meltdown in a public place they can be a bit more sympathetic.

There was a discussion in one of the UNIQUE( rare chromosome disorder support groups I'm in about not casting a disabled child ,and most people were in agreement that a child with the level of disability that Rosie has probably wouldn't have been able to take direction ,i know my son could,nt but it's very well done .

Oh definitely there is no way the part could have been acted by a child with that sort of disability, and to use a child who was disabled would have been totally inappropriate, because they would not have the capacity to do so willingly.
I was just commenting that my son, who has grown up with a brother who is similar in many ways to the girl in the programme, found it uncomfortable viewing and I think part of it is seeing someone neuro-typical acting at making noises and exhibiting challenging behaviour, iyswim.
I think there is also an element of not liking the use it for entertainment, but I'm sure that can be said for many story lines in TV programmes that may mirror the lives of people, but you only notice when it's your life.

Yes I know what you mean Artie my dad has refused to watch it because he thinks it will upset him ,my son has very similar disabilities to Rosie ,I can totally see your son's point of view .

But to be fair the writer is writing about his own child so I'm sure a lot of it is personal experience , programmes such as the A word really don't reflect our own experience of raising a child with autism and severe learning disabilities so I'm happy to see this programme it's far closer to our reality .

There was an interview with Shaun Pye around the time of the first series where he said that they explored casting an actor with SEN but ultimately decided that it would be so confusing and distressing for the child that it would be unethical.

I keep forgetting to watch this!

I saw it last night and thoroughly enjoyed it!

However, as I haven't seen it for a while I have a question about the little sister. I was wondering if she has sight issues as she keeps bumping into things/goes behind doors or is it just little kid behaviour? You can tell I am not a mum! Also the fact that she cries for a long time, does she also have sn?

@Deathraystare

I keep forgetting to watch this!

I saw it last night and thoroughly enjoyed it!

However, as I haven't seen it for a while I have a question about the little sister. I was wondering if she has sight issues as she keeps bumping into things/goes behind doors or is it just little kid behaviour? You can tell I am not a mum! Also the fact that she cries for a long time, does she also have sn?

There isn't a little sister. The small child crying and bumping into things is the same child back in 2008.