I give you clear warning, this place is goiing to go NUTS when Channel Four airs Bringing Up Baby on the 25th Sept... Claire Verity!!!

[Aitch]

seriously. i'm watching it now for work and it is terribly upsetting. Claire Verity says 'i'm a bitch, i'm mean to them but it works', no touching, no eye contact, lots of talking about 'baby', presumably because she can't be arsed remembering the name... oh it's AWFUL.

OMG, Why are they not understanding the difference between small children and babies, yes, small children can be attention seeking, but babies?????

DS (15mths) woke up last night at about 2am. I took great pleasure in going into cuddle him back to sleep and kissing his little face. Was he manipulating me? No, he was cold and looked frightened- because he's a fricking human being who needs his Mammy and Daddy!

My DS is 3 in december, if he cries I go to him, it normally takes a kiss on the head or a quick 30 second hug to make him better, and then he'll happily go off and do his own thing, where is the problem in this??
If on the other hand he is just whinging because he is tired, then I would likely ignore him.
There is obviously going to be a huge difference between children and babies, and the first few months are critical.

never seen the wright stuff before, what a load of rubbish

What did mr cheeso wright have to say on the subject?

well we all know babies are little manipulative attention seekers - they've got to learn!
Plus he kept banging on about 6 month olds. At no point did he make it clear that CV inflicts this regime on newborns.

He's a pita with added cheese. Eurgh, makes my skin crawl just thinking about his smarmy smile... Mananges to make any journalistic angle look banal and..well..tabloid but that's what he's paid to do I guess..

He was being a flipping moron, and by no way dealing with the newborn issue, just vaguely covering if there was ever a time we should let babies cry, which I'm sure as mothers we have all done at some point, but it is age relevant ffs!

moron, yes, that's the word I was trying to think of.
Did anyone from here ring in?
I was hoping someone would tell her she was a dangerous lunatic but they were all very measured, and in the end it came across as "Let's humour these hormone riddled mothers who want to spoil their babies and attend to their every whim"

Really glad Tiktok posted first about Claire Scott (Continuum Concept)'s breastfeeding advice. It looked to me as if her technique was utter pants - the mum involved appeared to be doing exactly the thing wrong that I did for 11 weeks while 13 supposedly helpful people advised me, and her approach was 'I did it like this' - for two children - NOT impressive.

All three seem to have a manner designed to drain confidence from the parents tbh.

Wish they had two families with no guru involved.

me too, choosy, i got flashbacks when i saw that woman sitting there wiht 'help me' on her face. apparently claire scott is a LLL bfing counsellor though.

Aitch - she is definitely not an LLL counsellor. The website says she is a 'breastfeeding support officer' with LLL, a post that I have never heard of....no breastfeeding counsellor or trained person with any of the vol orgs would have been so dreadful at helping that poor woman with her bf.

I don't care if it is edited, and 5 mins later it all worked beautifully .... no one from the vol orgs manhandles a woman and a baby, and so ineptly, too

I remember my midwife helping me to latch, it took us about two hours, from about 3am, she saw my light on in my room at hospital and came in to help me, wonderful woman, I wished I could have sent her to that poor woman last night.
Breastfeeding should not hurt!

choosy, i agree, if this is to be a valid 'experiment' (for want of a better word) then there should be a normal, 'control' couple, who do as most of us do, bit of this, bit of that, few mistakes, use our instincts and advice from friends and family. a couple who appreciate that all babies are unoque, and have different needs, and CANNOT be pigeon holed...

see that's the thing though, tiktok. you know the difference, but the ordinary viewer doesn't. they see/hear LLL and think bfing counsellor. interesting that you think she was shite, i did wonder myself, largely because that was about the level of care i received.

softballwidow i guess if they'd had a few non-guru couples, it would have shown that -gasp! some babies sleep through without a routine; some routines do not prevent you from having a normal relationship with your babies; feeding a baby in ANY way doesn't always go smoothly throughout; etc etc.

Oh dear. why am I so easily manipulated. [sets video for next week's episode ]

oh you[ll like next week's. CV on bfing.

me too

CV will be at the baby show in may 2008, anyone fancy a public hanging

Well. don't suppose there would be much point in advertising my services as a Maternity Nurse now!

do you cuddle???

Oh yes, and I even 'allow' mum and dad to do so, but then I'm a rebel.

I watched the prog and she was awful, thanks god she doesn't have children of her own (although I imagine if she did, and she actually does have a heart in there somewhere, she would changes her "rules" pretty quickly)

I would just like to say, about leaving the baby outside, never mind the cold and leaving them to cry (which is bl**dy awful full-stop) but does this women listen/read the news. Weirdo's will go to alsorts of length to snatch babies/ children and she wants people to deliberately leave them outside, for 3hrs, screaming while you are inside with the door closed so you can't hear them. Is she insane..????

There we are - no baby of her own - explains everything about the silly cow.

i've got to say that the leaving the child to sleep in the fresh air bothered me the least. dd used to love sleeping when we went to the park so if we'd had a garden i think i'd have put her out. maybe not as a newborn, right enough. the issue to me seems to be that the parents are told to ignore their child's cries, which is just plain wrong.