I give you clear warning, this place is goiing to go NUTS when Channel Four airs Bringing Up Baby on the 25th Sept... Claire Verity!!!

[Aitch]

seriously. i'm watching it now for work and it is terribly upsetting. Claire Verity says 'i'm a bitch, i'm mean to them but it works', no touching, no eye contact, lots of talking about 'baby', presumably because she can't be arsed remembering the name... oh it's AWFUL.

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I used to HATE that if I lay gazing into the DSs' beautiful big brown eyes at night, there was a sneaking "no eye contact!" shrilling faintly at the back of my thoughts. Fucking woman who put it there. Still did it though

Me too Hunker

CLBB methods are not THAT far off CV's, even if she doesn't actually hate babies and treat them like cattle

Certainly the examples given in CLBB of babies crying for hours to 'teach' them to sleep are far worse than was shown last night

Since Harlow's poor little monkey's and the Russian Orphanages have already been mentioned I thought you might all find this quite interesting.

This shows some of the results of such tests like CV's on monkey's and children. I find it very interesting that the man who decided to do these experiments on the children was executed and is described as a communist dictator.
The section called In the Orphanage is where you will find the very sad result of growing up without love and human contact. Tho I know this is a very extreme case of neglect of the children, how far of a throw is it really from what CV is condoning???

I'm going to start a new thread about the complaints BTW

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I thought CV ws cruel and barking mad myself, but then mine were raised in the 'instinctive parenting' style, fed on demand, luggged around in slings, and I even slept with DD2 from birth till about 9 months - but that was mainly because DH insisted that if I really must have a second child he didn't want to be disturbed at nights this time Anyway I liked it - DD2 used to wake me up with smiles, happy cooing and a friendly bop on the nose. Ahhh for those lovely days....

However I myself was raised by the 'leave in pram in freezing fog to yell all afternoon' method which was de rigeur in the late 50s, and I'm very cuddly, affectionate and extremely placid. I think it harmed my poor Mum more than me, she said it was absolute agony.

OH MY DEAR GOD.
I watched this on plus1 last night as I had other stuff to watch at nine. And then the bloody storm f*ed up my sky so I missed some of it, BUT I did see from the second baby CV was mentoring.
I really dont know what to say, I have 2dcs and both slept through pretty quickly, DS not as quickly but I co-slept and bf on demand so my sleep wasnt interrupted that badly.
How on earth can you say every baby ever born needs a feed every four hours???
Babies are born different sizes, as are their bellies, so it makes sense that they need different feeding routines
I really felt for the woman that was finding breast feeding so hard yet persevered and I think she was bloody great!!!
Pity that will be what a lot of mothers take from this program, that bf is painful and hard
And as for the glass of wine on the first night
That baby woke up an hour and a half after it went to bed, therefore it must have been around 8:30pm but they werent allowed to touch it again til feedtime at 11pm, did they actually leave it for TWO AND A HALF HOURS??????????

OMG! I couldn't believe it. They put the newborn baby outside in a pram and closed the door in cold weather. Surely this isn't legal? I mean with all the child protection laws we have now that can't be allowed can it?

On the whole I thought the programme was great, I think it was brilliant showing different methods and showing different people and how it works or doesn't work for them. A real eye opener I thought but I just could not believe that they put that baby outside in a pram.

I felt so sorry for the mother when the baby was crying upstairs and she wasn't allowed to go up and comfort her child. It must have been horrible for her, one day her baby's living inside her womb where it's safe and she's protecting it and the next it's upstairs screaming and she's not even allowed to hold it close to her. How horrible.

she's not even allowed to make eye contact with it
I'm not exaggerating

Even my DH was upset by this programm, what if new mums watch this. It was really scary

pixie - i was gobsmacked about that too - leaving the baby outside and closing the door behind you!! ....i do agree leaving the baby outside on its own but i do prefer i can see the baby - just incase..

well, aitch, you were right, this place has gone NUTS

CV should not be telling people how to care for for children
It was heartbreaking watching Mia's mum cry when she just wanted to cuddle her baby
to deny a baby cuddles and get them on a four hourly feeding routine is barbaric when they are 1 day old FFS ...

I bet that CV is CHILDLESS!

Another fecking childcare guru who hasn't a clue about being a Mum.

...and we are supposed to respect her opinion.

Didn't watch the programme as I knew it would fill me with rage.

I have put my babies outside in the pram before now, next to my back door, which was open, with me very close by, and I cant think of a time before about 3 months old when I left either of them to cry for more than a couple of minutes. As they got older I would leave them for a while whilst I shoveled my dinner down my neck or went for a wee or something, but I NEVER left them crying for no reason, and I NEVER left them to cry themselves to sleep before about 7/8 months, even then I would never let them cry long, just go in and comfort them without picking them up, then leave once they were calm again.

She is one scary lady that Verity woman!

Wonder how much Huggies sales will drop as a result of last nights programme?

She is childless, and it seems blatantly obvious to me that she is lining her pockets. She can not seriously think that what she is doing is right, but at the same time, it is apparently earning her a lot of cash. What a bitch.
Her methods are pure evil, I also feel sorry for the silly arses who opted for her methods, they must feel like they can't back down, when of course they should.
Very interested in how this turns out.

I just read the article about her in the times, she has a house full of animals and treats them tons better than she does the babies she has looked after
STRANGE WOMAN

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