I give you clear warning, this place is goiing to go NUTS when Channel Four airs Bringing Up Baby on the 25th Sept... Claire Verity!!!

[Aitch]

seriously. i'm watching it now for work and it is terribly upsetting. Claire Verity says 'i'm a bitch, i'm mean to them but it works', no touching, no eye contact, lots of talking about 'baby', presumably because she can't be arsed remembering the name... oh it's AWFUL.

I would really love to know who her previous clients have been.
I reckon I could take a good guess.

Loved how they did a shot of her driving her big fat Mercedes and then her changing gear showing us her big fat rocks on her finger.

yes, she did say that about being a bitch, "yes, I am bitch.....kerrrching"

I haven't read the rest so excuse me if I'm repeating.

It broke my heart when that couple following the no cuddle routine, who had an older daughter who wasn't allowed to cuddle her sister. This newborn time should be all about her bonding with her new baby sister, not about her sister being outside on her own.

Verges on child abuse!

you know what? if a classroom is 17 degrees C or below, they either have to bring portable heaters in or find me another classroom to teach in.

It is AGAINST THE LAW to teach students in those conditions.

Poor Poor Babies.

There would be absolutely nothing wrong with wrapping a baby up very warmly and putting in a pram in cold weather tbh, I also agreed with leaving windows open and plenty of fresh air getting into the nursery - it is far more dangerous IMHO for a baby to be kept in all day in an overheated house.

However, this was all I did agree with, that and carrying on having parties etc if you want to and them having own room if you want them to.

I hated her heartlessness though and the 10 minute cuddle allowance, no eye contact etc - that's ridiculous and cruel, also totally unnatural for any mother - but she wouldn't know that would she?

Yeah the outside thing was pretty standard in 50s early 60s. My mum was told to park my poor (premature) sister out at 7 in the morn and wait till she cried.

'But she never cries' my mum said. 'I could still be waiting till 5pm when me husband comes home'

Ahh says HV, better pick her up then. It was later found my sister had quite severe breathing problems. This was 1963. Pretty standard, but shocking all the same.

Haven't read all of the posts...so sorry if its already been said...
At the beginning of the show it said the couples chose the method which seemed closest to their expectations/lifestyles. I found it fascinating and disturbing, but I'm not ready to complain to C4 etc yet, as this first programme was very early days.
It may be that the couples reject CVs ideas completely as the programme continues. Fingers crossed anyway. It would take a very cruel and heartless mum and dad to basically ignore their baby for any length of time, although I guess there are some out there or this woman wouldn't be making a fortune out of it
I confess to having a Dr Spock and I refer to it still (DD is 4 now). Most of the advice is sensible stuff and excellent for medical notes, behaviour problems etc. I liked that it isn't prescriptive, that it gave me confidence to make it up as I went along. Would highly recommend it!
Wish I'd had a sling like the ones on the programme tho' - I had a Tomy thing which just wasn't comfy for dd or me, and gave up carrying her quite quickly.

socialbaby.blogspot.com/2007/05/stop-claire-verity.html

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ALL 3 EXPERTS ON CHANNEL 5 AROUND 10.00am ON WRIGHT STUFF

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YOU CAN RING UP AND TALK TO THEM

THERE IS ALSO A PHONE LINE TO VOTE WHETHER YOU PICK UP A CRYING BABY

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Nbg, previous clients were sting, jack nicholson and mick jagger.

nobody is saying it is better to keep a baby in an overheated house.

Havent caught up since last night but cv and the others are on matthew wright on channel 5 now.

Ahh rtkanga beat me too it!!

Lorayn

who'd have thought it

Oh, all three of the 'experts' were hopeless.

Claire Verity was providing a service to parents who for some reason do not want to be emotionally attached to their babies. There is a huge body of reasearch going back 40 or more years that demonstrates this has long term sometimes irreversible effects on mental and physical health (not on everyone - some human beings are more resiliant, but on many). In order not to be emotionally attached, you need to work quite hard at ignoring your instincts and impulses. So her methods make perfect sense if all you are worried about is the parents' ability to be detached, and if you don't worry about the baby. Out of the three, she has the potential to do most damage.

Dreena whatever her name was is prejudiced against breastfeeding in public and I gather does not think bf is advisable after 3 mths. So she can get stuffed as well.

Claire Scott may be a lovely person in real life, and I warmed to her personality, but she makes and sells the slings she was using which is an ad, in my book. But more than that, she was useless at supporting that poor mother with her breastfeeding - she was making things worse, as she had no practical skills at all...and sadly did not realise it.

she is the nany to Prince Edward and Sophies kid - that explains it - the royals are devoid of emotion as well

No need for the raised eyebrows Kiskidee - it just always irritates me when people say that babies shouldn't be out in cold weather - it's perfectly acceptable for babies to be in prams in winter, outside as long as they are wrapped up well.
I was just making the point that it is more dangerous to be too warm than too cold

no one has said they shouldn't go out in cold weather. people are objecting to stuffing them out in cold weather for an undeterminable period of time (maybe 3 hrs?), alone, while you pooter about the warm kitchen making yourself a warm cuppa.

err, i think most people already know the point you were trying to make.

i don't shout at TV's.... until last night! Why would anyone agree to put their baby through something like this? I ahve no issues with the cold (but think its a good idea if your baby is outside to be with them- at least keep the bloody door open), but the BF advice was poor and when they wouldn't even let the sibling cuddle the baby- poor lass! A very strange bizarre experiemnt! The chances of me following any routine rigidly are non-existent, but the CV one- er no thanks.

They put the newborn baby outside in a pram and closed the door in cold weather. Surely this isn't legal? I mean with all the child protection laws we have now that can't be allowed can it?

That was the post I was responding to, that's all.

"babies can be terrible attention seekers"

babies do, of course, have the cognitive ability to plan how to manipulate their parents and act upon that decision.

Assumng of course that they are born about 2 years overdue, ime.