Quiz - ITV

[southeastdweller]

It's a three part drama about the Who Wants to be a Millionaire coughing scandal in 2001.

www.radiotimes.com/news/2020-04-08/quiz-itv-drama-air-date-cast-trailer/

Anyone else planning on watching it?

It's ingenious but it isn't complex

Bugger if he coughed by accident on the Million pound question

How can you undo a cough?

How can you undo a cough?

Cough again on the other answers so that Ingram has to read them out again.

If their appeal was to be successful, would they have a claim for the million pounds I wonder?

I doubt it - I expect Celador have something in the T&Cs to say the prize can be withdrawn at their discretion. It would be a civil matter, separate from the criminal proceedings and the fact they're outside the six year statute of liability would make it difficult for the Ingrams to sue them.

Well his wife won 32 k so that was a decent size, especially back in 2001. If Ingram has have stopped at 125 k, he may have got away with it ( if he was cheating).
So 157 k back in 2001 ( the total they could have had) would have brought you a decent property outright. A decent sum of money all the same, particularly 19 years ago!
I can’t believe how much time has passed since those days of WWTBAM !

I agree, Jedi - and it's been suggested that that was the cause of the row supposedly overheard by Tarrant - Charles was supposed to have stopped much sooner to avoid arousing suspicion. Obviously once he'd gone beyond the agreed point without taking the money, he had to keep going to avoid dropping back to the last safety net.

It's been implied he was in debt which was why he needed the money. They already had a good-sized house in a nice area. Google tells me an Army Major today would earn £58k so assuming the relative salary was similar in 2001, there'd be no reason for them to be hard up (I believe his wife worked as well) unless it was because they'd accrued debt.

They already had a good-sized house in a nice area.
In the programme, it was rented. Lots of people live above their means.

If he was in the Army I suppose he might have moved around a lot so renting would have made sense - do officers get a housing allowance if they don't live in Army accommodation?

Pelleas you can choose to take the money at any question, so no inherent reason for him to "have to" keep on going.

Yes, I know - but unless he said 'I'll take the money' his accomplices (if that's what they were) would have to keep coughing to avoid him guessing wrong and dropping back.

It's the 'loss aversion' theory that gets me.

He could have doubled his money to £1 million - i.e. won £500,000, he could have lost £468,000 or he could have taken £500,000 and walked away.

Most people would take the money. Heck, most people would take the money if the loss was only £100,000. People are generally more reluctant to lose money than to potentially gain money.

I would love to see the actual time when he goes for the million pound question. And all the time it took.

If he knew, he surely would have been confident. 100% confident. No pretending for the show. And that surely would have come across in body language.

I wonder if they had a behavioural psychologist as part of the witnesses.

Pelleas- An Army Major is quite well paid, as you mentioned, around 50 plus grand per year ( on today’s pay scale) depending on length of service and what role you’re doing. Had Ingram been promoted to the next rank- lieutenant colonial, he would be on even more money obviously.
All married service personnel are entitled to married service accommodation ( to my knowledge) which is considerably cheaper than private rents. Of course people can live in their own private rental or their own property.

I was surprised about how quiz shows audition people. When you watch some of these shows some people seem quite bland, makes me wonder how they got on.
A friend of mine auditioned for deal or no deal and didn’t get on it.

The clip of the question

Planned in 8 minutes - does it take 8 minutes to arrange 'if you say you're not sure, read out the answers and either Tecwin or I will cough when you read out the correct one'. It's ingenious but it isn't complex

I don't see how he could guarantee knowing that it was one of them coughing rather than any other member of the audience, particularly if he'd never met Tecwen or heard his voice.

I agree with most of what prh47bridge says, and the scientific evidence sounds interesting. Where I struggle, however, is in relation to Ingram's strategy. Most people simply wouldn't have taken the risks he did with questions they were uncertain on. I can see why he went for Craig David in response to the crowd's reaction, but not why he was prepared to risk so much on the questions about Haussmann, Holbein and Googol. It may be that he is simply a risk taker, but when you stand to lose the best part of half a million pounds, that is incredibly reckless.

However, that question on its own really wouldn't be enough to convince me that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt, so the jury's verdict does look pretty rocky. Do we know if it was unanimous or a majority verdict?

One odd thing was the behaviour shown, in the last episode, of the Ingrams being first accused of cheating. Their behaviour seemed a bit calm. You could say they were stunned but that wasn't quite how they looked. I think they should have gone bonkers if it was a wrong accusation.
Apparently Charles had been up to a scam prior to that metro.co.uk/2020/04/16/quiz-chris-tarrant-asks-charles-ingram-court-drama-didnt-include-prosecutions-side-12563414/

I don't see how he could guarantee knowing that it was one of them coughing rather than any other member of the audience
That's why he repeated the answers more than once. And perhaps he also spoke to TW on his wife's phone.

However, that question on its own really wouldn't be enough to convince me that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt, so the jury's verdict does look pretty rocky.
That wasn't the only evidence though. It's a programme not a documentary.

@JudyCoolibar thank you! I enjoy court room dramas but as a lawyer I get highly irritated by the inaccuracies which are easy to change, particularly the language used by the barristers on occasion. Far too americanised. Also the way some of the evidence was presented wouldn't have happened like that. I think they were guilty.

What was the dancing and singing bit in the last episode about??

I think it's a callback to where he was talking/singing about musical theatre with his boss

He commented: ‘And also they don’t mention the fact at all and I think it’s relevant that before Millionaire happened before he won his million pounds and all went upside down, he had already been arrested and charged and eventually found guilty of an insurance scam where he tried to get lots of money illegally and was found guilty from Direct Line.

That's interesting, but surely past convictions aren't allowed to be mentioned in a trial? Because it clearly biases people!

Another thing..... I don't think other contestants repeated all the possible answers aloud, sometimes 2 or 3 times in Ingrams case, as they thought about the answer. It would have made for a pretty tedious game.It seemed strange that he kept repeating them slowly, then going back and repeating them again. Waiting for the cough?

The show is edited it is not live so they could cut out some of those repeats. You are seeing it as evidence. The show never went out.

After the jury had been deliberating for 3 days the judge told them he would accept majority decision. So
It was prob not unanimous. This came from an old guardian article.

Just finished episode 1. I'm enjoying it far more than I thought. Martin Sheen is great at Chris Tarrant.

Martin was on five live today. He did his Chris impression: was fab!
Seems a nice man.