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White House Farm - The Bamber Murders. Jan 8th ITV 9pm

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Dogleg · 30/12/2019 21:04

Is anyone else planning to watch this six part series? I vaguely remembered the killings and on seeing this advertised have now lost hours to reading up about it online and have also downloaded a book about the case. I’m really looking forward to this one!

www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2019-12-25/itv-drama-white-house-farm/

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ILoveYou3000 · 18/01/2020 12:47

I think he didn't physically do it himself, but he was involved.

Does anyone know, in episode one when he was informed they'd all died, he appeared to vomit; did this actually happen?

DuckWillow · 18/01/2020 13:04

There is a website with a forum "miscarriage of justice forum" which goes heavily into the Bamber case and includes transcripts of the police interviews where Jeremy does not come across very well.

They have explored the hired hitman theory and rejected it but can't remember why.

Because Jeremy made the initial police call there can only be three possible scenarios.

  1. It was a murder/suicide
  2. Jeremy is guilty of all five murders
  3. Jeremy hired a hitman who carried out the murders.

No 1 was ruled out due to Sheila's blood being found in the silencer. Plus other bits of evidence.
However it's acknowledged that Essex Police mishandled the whole case at the beginning. This is the only reason I can see that Jeremy might one day walk free. Guilty or not. Then again every appeal has failed .

No 3 has a name linked to it as I recall and he was a close friend of Jeremy who now lives abroad. If No 3 is true Jeremy is guilty of arranging the murders but not carrying them out.

Julie Mugford was apparently a very credible witness in court through cross examination. However she's a similar age to me now and I still think her behaviour before and after the murders was very very strange. She should have been charged at the very least with aiding an offender because according to her testimony she knew he planned to do something. She says she thought it was all talk. If that's the case she must have been terrified when the family all turned up dead.

Personally I would have gone straight to the police and not been giggling with Jeremy, enjoying meals out and going on holiday. Only when he dumps her does she speak to police. Then again she might wonder at that point what he might do to her.

Odd woman anyway.

Butterfly005 · 18/01/2020 13:58

Does anyone know, in episode one when he was informed they'd all died, he appeared to vomit; did this actually happen?

I heard this did actually happen, which would be quite extraordinary acting - but maybe some people can do this on cue?

LordOfTheWhys · 18/01/2020 15:35

He could have vomited from nerves. Also, I guess if he did shoot them, he must have panicked when the policeman thought he saw someone moving about upstairs.
Duck isn't there a fourth option that more than one person committed the murders? eg Jeremy and a hitman ; or two members of the family shooting different people at different times.
The forensics should have shown from blood splatter and trails, the rough order of the shootings but the scene was so disturbed, I'm not sure they have any accuracy on it.
I find it odd that Neville said he thought there was going to a shooting accident.

Piggywaspushed · 18/01/2020 16:27

The vomiting is a bit like the 'did Lady Macbeth really faint?' debate!

Peapod29 · 18/01/2020 16:29

Apparently he did appear in a state of shock when he was told, there’s interviews with the attending officers that say it. The other thing I can’t quite believe is that if he did do it no one professional (I know his cousin and some other acquaintances have since said they thought he was odd) thought he behaved oddly or questioned his grief. Don’t forget the press were all over the funeral, everything. I can’t believe no one noticed he had psychopathic tendencies before. Someone who could have done such a thing is surely one of the worst psychopaths the country has ever seen. To kill those little boys in cold blood.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/01/2020 16:50

I think I read that though he did appear to vomit, he went into the field a little distance away to do it, which makes it more plausible he was pretending than if it was in the outhouse with the police as portrayed.

VenusClapTrap · 21/01/2020 11:24

I watched this last night, and then dreamed I was being hunted by someone through an old farmhouse. Woke up at 3am needing a wee but didn’t dare get out of bed...

I read about this case on a local FB forum a few weeks ago, because someone local is part of the Bamber campaign. I read his campaign links and it all sounded very convincing; and I was horrified at such a gross miscarriage of justice.

But then I read more widely about the case. Now I think that on balance he probably did do it, although the police investigation was such a fuck up I think there will always be room for doubt.

I’m just glad we now live in a time with better forensics and investigation procedures.

colouringinpro · 22/01/2020 21:15

anyone watching?

almostfreeatlast · 22/01/2020 21:18

Me!

HeIenaDove · 22/01/2020 21:19

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almostfreeatlast · 22/01/2020 21:20

He wants rid of those bodies ASAP doesn’t he ...

AlexaAmbidextra · 22/01/2020 21:20

I am. Anne Eaton had no business clearing the house and the police had no business giving her they keys. I think her and her family’s involvement stinks tbh. Especially as she moved herself, her husband and children into WHF some months later and is still there today. I have read that her children were scared that they were made to live there. Quite understandably imo. I wouldn’t want to.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 22/01/2020 21:28

Why is Gemma Whelan so wooden and unconvincing when she's a perfectly good actress in other things? Is it the fault of the script?

Supersimkin2 · 22/01/2020 21:29

The whole family were horrible.

HeIenaDove · 22/01/2020 21:30

Well when i googled last week i found that WHF is now the home of a car rental company.

colouringinpro · 22/01/2020 21:30

Didn't know that Anne moved her family in. But still think the right person is in prison.

almostfreeatlast · 22/01/2020 21:31

Same Helena

MrsPatrickDempsey · 22/01/2020 21:35

We walked up to the farm at the weekend and it looked very desolate. The actual farmhouse is concealed by trees. I felt very uncomfortable.

AlexaAmbidextra · 22/01/2020 21:39

Well when i googled last week i found that WHF is now the home of a car rental company.

Like many farms, there are numerous outbuildings that are let out to unrelated businesses as a commercial venture. WHF is still primarily a working farm.

ElderAve · 22/01/2020 21:44

Blimey, if this is realistic the whole lot of them are awful.

ElderAve · 22/01/2020 21:45

Apart from the boys' father, who comes across as impossibly lovely!

Supersimkin2 · 22/01/2020 21:46

Anne Eaton did help herself, did she? She had a huge sense of entitlement to the Bamber parents and their stuff.

VenusClapTrap · 22/01/2020 21:46

I saw an interview with the other cousin, Anne’s brother, and he didn’t come across well. A little bit off.

AlexaAmbidextra · 22/01/2020 21:48

East Coast Classics
Unit 2 Pages Lane,
White House Farm,
Tolleshunt D’Arcy,
Maldon, Essex,
CM9 8AA

This is the car rental company. You will see from the address, taken from their website, that they occupy just one unit of the farm.

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