The Crown - series 3

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I'm so looking forward to seeing this when it returns next Sunday!

A bit beside the point of the thread, but as much as I like Rupert Penry-Jones, the definitive Captain Wentworth is Ciaran Hinds in the 1995 film of Persuasion.

Just a little public service announcement for anyone who hasn't seen it.

OK, back to The Crown.

Thank you @KitMarlowesCodpieceOfThigh.

A bit beside the point of the thread, but as much as I like Rupert Penry-Jones, the definitive Captain Wentworth is Ciaran Hinds in the 1995 film of Persuasion.

This is the reason I have avoided all other versions. But now, thanks to Tobias, I shall have to give Rupert's version a shot.

Despite knowing about Aberfan, watching the reimagining of it was incredibly powerful and deeply upsetting.

Following on from Claire Foy and Vanessa Kirby was always going to be a tough act as they truly inhabited the people they were portraying. I'm just not convinced by OC as the Queen and HBC as Princess Margaret. They seem to be playing at being them rather than being them. I'm also not convinced with OC's diction. Her accent just isn't right. Tobias Menzies' Prince Phillip has really grown on me though as the series has progressed.

Still loving Princess Anne, and thrilled to see Jane Lapotaire as Princess Alice of Denmark and Greece. (Loved her since Love Hurts). Also really like Camilla. Would be interested to know how the reimagining of the early Charles and Camilla relationship and its parallel with the Duke of Windsor and Wallis's relationship would have been portrayed had Diana not have died.

Found watching Derek Jacobi and Geraldine Chaplin as DoW and Wallis quite upsetting as they're both so old now. Seeing Geraldine Chaplin was particularly upsetting as I remember how young and vibrant a beauty she was in Dr Zhivago.

Only two more episodes left to watch. I can't say I've been all that taken with this season.

Geraldine Chaplin was perfect as Wallis but I almost didn't recognise her at first!

@QueenOfTheAndals I don't watch much telly, but what I do watch I really love, I'm not a browser if you know what I mean. I feel like I want to watch everything he's in now though!

Yes kit he played the dastardly Mr Elliot, Anne's cousin. He has been in lots of things but doesn't seem to be a big name yet, maybe The Crown will change that.

Episode 5. Mountbatten - what a snake! I am watching open-mouthed with horror at how close we came to a coup. I was a young teenager at the time, I had no idea.

@CaptainMyCaptain - don't say too much, lots of people won't watch it all at once! (I had no idea either until I saw this episode) I've only got two episodes to watch and I've had to promise myself that I'll save them for tomorrow!

I'm sorry, I was just so horrified.

I am on the last 2

Dave a snake to the end, quite horrified about that!

Emerald Fennell just ISN'T Camilla, really find her rather wet.

There will be something big involving Mountbatten in series 4, I assume. I don't think that counts as a spoiler, since all of these events actually happened in real life, but I'll keep it cagey just in case!

I think Iain Glen would make a good Denis Thatcher, with grey hair dye and specs.

@CaptainMyCaptain me too!

Agreed Eoin I thought that, I think it might even stretch over a few episodes what with princess Anne as well. I don't think we can class anything that is 40yr old historical fact as a spoiler really

Yes, that is the beauty of dealing with real history, you can't really say you don't want to know what happens!

What IS surprising is how explicit they've gone in saying the family thought Camilla was a proper slag.

I imagine there'll be some very sad scenes in the fourth series with the aftermath of Mountbatten's murder as Charles was apparently very close to him.

I’m assuming that the forthcoming events involving Mountbatten will come as a massive Red Wedding style shock to many American viewers though.

There was a lighthearted and wrongheaded article in the Guardian arguing that all the events in The Crown so far had been trivial. I assume he missed the episode where cuddly Uncle David literally tried to sell out the whole country to the actual Nazis.
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/nov/18/the-crown-netflix-prince-andrew-woking

Yes LadyIsabella that episode was a shocker too. I had to look up the Marburg Papers although I did know he was that way inclined.

I wonder if the Queen was really that vile to Charles. I really felt sorry for him in Series 2 at school too.

It did make me feel sorry for Sarah and David, Margaret's children

Neither parent seems to have given much of a shit about them at any given time.

I’m finding myself feeling really sorry for Charles. Which surprises me because I’ve always hated him His childhood / youth seems totally lacking in compassion and affection - going by the series anyway.

Princess Anne seems to have been quite insistent on giving her children as normal a life as possible, luckily for them.

LadyIsabella I'm not sure what series that Guardian writer has been watching, but he must have also missed the Profumo affair, which ended in a man's suicide, Eden's drug addiction, and that's before you even get onto the Aberfan episode. But then, Stuart Heritage comes across as a not-too-bright character who automatically hates anything he thinks is a "costume drama", cos it's all slow and boring and for women, and there aren't any car chases.

The frostiness between Charles and the Queen, coupled with Philip openly favouring Anne has long been known.

But The Queen is said to be close to Sarah. Their mother was a narcissistic, selfish, alcoholic, it seems likely The Queen "stepped in" at some point.

Sarah and David turned out remarkably well considering who their parents were! But then again so have Beatrice and Eugenie.