LOVE ISLAND THREAD 5.

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Moomin they all turned on Sophie in series 2. There was lots of bitching then. Series 1, Jess had a hard time on occasion.

Also someone up thread stated Amber had stormed over to Lucie shouting at her about Amy crying, but that isn't how it happened. Lucie joined the girls and was laughing about it in not the nicest of ways, they said twice that Amy was upset it was only then Lucie stopped laughing and also altered her 'getting my anger out somehow' to 'stress-relief'.

We see not even an hour a day, so those saying Amy is 'constantly' talking about Lucie are being a bit dramatic. As someone else said, that could be the only time she mentions her all day. Possibly because she's been told to or someone else has.

Admittedly Amy's face last night was hilarious in how blatant her feelings were. I think she's hurt because in the first week she was supportive of Lucie, who has since pretty much ditched her. She's handling it badly and is acting quite immaturely, that we're seeing anyway.

123Helpus yes I have. And I find it really disturbing. He doesnt want her having friends with Tommy. Upsets her and then reframes it as

'You will be happier if you are friends with the girls' making our that he is only trying help her be happier. She would be happier in there if she would just listen to him and do what he says. It's her fault she isnt happy and if she does what he says she will be.

Its absolutely disgusting that the producers are letting this happen.

If Lucie ends up leaving somehow because of all this I wont be able to bear Amy's smirking self-satisfaction.

I'd rather switch-off.

ILoveYou3000 That’s how I see it.

Also this whole Lucie prefers hanging out with boys to girls, but Lucie wasn’t hanging out with boys from what I could seen shown. She was very much just with Joe & then has occasional chats with Tommy when she is upset with Joe.

I also think it’s odd that people think Amy should be the one leaving. Joes behaviour & the effect that has on Lucie is much more worrying.

I agree, Joe is vile. He's no good for Lucie at all. And I feel like she's only stuck with him so far not to upset him.

My feeling is that if Amy were to leave the island now, things would improve quite dramatically for Lucie. Certainly not with Joe still in there.

Yes she was with Joe all the time (probably to appease him) and it's only now he's saying talk to the girls more because he doesn't want her talking to Tommy.

Yep, she looked like she was going to cry when he picked her again last night. She smiled but then it dropped again. People are really messing with her head in there, him being the worst one.
MM hasn't joined in with any of the bitching about Lucie. If Lucie was really after Tommy then she would have something to say about it but she can see there's nothing in it and accepts Lucie for how she is.

Curtis and Amy won't win, that's for sure. I wonder if Curtis will realise how Amy looks to the public?

Joe is like a port in a storm for her right now. A shit port, but a seeming refuge when the girls are gunning for her.

Agree his behaviour needs to be checked by the producers, they can't let it continue.

I think she's hurt because in the first week she was supportive of Lucie, who has since pretty much ditched her.

But it was the first week. Any adult would know, if a bunch of people are thrown together that you may start be friendly with someone at first but then find other friendships develop.

It's the whole point of the show. They start with one person but may develop a relationship with someone else. Its unrealistic to think the person you talk to most in the first few days, is the person you will be best friends with the whole time.

I dont think Lucie did ditch Amy, I think she more than likely just drifted away as other friendships developed. Then Amy had the 'stolen my thunder' moment. I wouldnt want to be friends with her either after that. It was ridiculous. I cant wrap my head around stuff like that, I am guessing neither can Lucie.

HollySniffs I totally agree.

It's a classic example of how someone ends up in an abusive relationship they feel they have no one else. While you dont like the persons behaviour or opinions, when they are your port (not matter how shit) you cling on.

See I think Lucie much prefers Tommy to Joe & that’s the whole issue. I’m not sure if we know Mollys feelings on the situation yet.

So when the majority of other couples pick Lucie & Joe as the most incompatible (which they are) is that bullying & vindictive?

I feel really sorry for lucie and hope she walks away .
She just looks so unhappy and downtrodden.
Joe is awful. Controlling.
I really liked Amy but seeing this different side to her has put me right off.

I really think Joe could have changed everyone's opinion on him last night.

If he had said 'you know I feel a bit jealous when you are with Tommy because of what happened the first week, but you are telking me it's just mates. That's fine. My jealousy is my issue. Ignore the girls, we are good'

It could have wiped out the whole concern about him being controlling at the beginning and would have made people think 'fair enough, he know he behaved badly and it's just a one off'.

Problem is controlling people often believe they have everyone fooled. And don't want to miss an opportunity to flex that control.

I am very concerned about how many of the girls are buying into it. Maura went up in my estimation by telling her it's not ok.

Joe is definitely a port in a storm. It would have been interesting to see how Lucie would have picked last night.

I do feel she chose Joe over Tommy because she felt Joe was the safer bet, he had made it clear he really liked her. She also likely thought it was the right thing to do. I'm sure that night she didn't look overly happy with her choice. Since then she hasn't had a chance to 'escape' as it were. She'll get that chance, if she chooses to take it, at the next recoupling when the girls will be choosing.

So when the majority of other couples pick Lucie & Joe as the most incompatible (which they are) is that bullying & vindictive?

It depends on why. I think a few ofbthe will pick them because they are following the 'poor Joe having to see Lucie flirt with all the guys'. Amy, especially will vote for them because she doesnt like her. You could see that in her face last night.

If they vote because they genuinely believe they arent compatible. Fair enough. But I think most of them, wrongly, feel that Joe is getting the piss taken out of him.

It's a sad state of affairs that lots of them dont see his behaviour for what it is.

Didn’t Amy tell Lucie earlier in the show that Joes behaviour was wrong?

But Joe & Lucie aren’t compatible, she should be running a mile.

Didn’t Amy tell Lucie earlier in the show that Joes behaviour was wrong?

Yes but is now siding with him because it suits her agenda.

I think earlier it suited Amy's agenda to move Lucie away from Joe. Any clearly wants to be the 'Dani and Jack'of last year.

I think that's the only thing keeping curtis and Amy together.

But Joe & Lucie aren’t compatible, she should be running a mile.

I agree. But I wouldnt want her to leave to achieve that and see them leave as a couple. I would rather see her coupled with someone else and people recognising and calling out his behaviour.

I think it’s way more complex. Joe is obviously a control freak but he only has a problem with Lucie going off with Tommy. They both admitted they liked each other & if the situation was reversed I don’t think the girls would be happy with that either. Joe has a legitimate reason to be annoyed but just doesn’t handle it correctly.

I just think it’s weird that people are seeing Amy as this master manipulator who is trying to turn people against Lucie as evidenced by the few mins a day we seen her talking about her.

I agree that Amy & Curtis want to be the new Dani & Jack but I don’t think Lucie & Joe were ever going to be vying for that role. It involves building relationships with lots of people in the villa & being popular/shoulder to cry on for the boys & girls.

Perhaps Amy looked unhappy because she could see how manipulative and controlling Joe is and how uncomfortable Lucie looked when he picked her.