LOVE ISLAND THREAD 5.

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I completely agree with @fancynancyclancy - don't see the girls behaviour as bullying at all.

Also, Lucie was totally flirting with Tommy & it was very over the top as well as rude for them to be whispering in the group like that. I don't agree with how Joe says it, but I get why he'd be pissed off with her behaviour with Tommy. I'm not buying her fake innocence & tears.

The nastiness has nothing to do with the whispering - it's been gradually building up way before this.

She wasn't flirting at all

BrienneofTarthILoveYou I love her too so you obvs have great taste!

The nastiness has nothing to do with the whispering - it's been gradually building up way before this.

I agree. They are waiting for her to do something to bitch about.

@fancynancyclancy

I truly think Lucie is sad because she’s with Joe but prefers Tommy (who wouldn’t) & feels trapped but she doesn’t want to admit it.

Happy to agree to disagree @MoominMantra as that was definitely flirting in my opinion

When Lucie was picking her clothes off the floor I really thought she was going to say she was gonna walk!

I have to disagree there @fancynancyclancy - I can't imagine why anyone would want to be with Tommy. He has a good body but is completely useless at everything & not even slightly intelligent. He gets less attractive with every passing episode.

That said, I wouldn't want Joe either.

But his 👀👀👀🤣🤣

MoominMantra Sorry are saying that yes Joe said “Don’t cry when you have so much make up on” to Lucie?
I really like Lucie, she isn’t fake and seems lovely

I think Lucie is a girl who enjoys the company of men more than women. If she was unattractive they wouldn't have as much of a problem with this but because she is pretty, they are aggressive that she can't be with 'the boys'.

Interestingly Molly Mae doesn't seem to have as much of an issue with her. Yet. Now she has coupled up with Tommy she will probably turn her attention to the girl again. Not that Molly Mae and Tommy are going to last anyway. Neither of them are that much into each other.

I presume they think Lucie has a game plan of forming platonic relationships and this will save her at some point when there is a vote which in reality will only happen if he falls out with the person he is coupled up with. They are threatened by her. There is no other logical reason for their bad treatment of her. Amy in particular, has seemingly spent a small fortune trying (and failing) to look like Lucie.

I really feel for Lucie and understand her position. I’m currently in a similar situation and it feels like bullying when you are isolated because others don’t agree with your personality. I’m an introvert, and my in-laws have taken great exception to this and they’ve basically shut me out.

Joe is very “Sleeping with the Enemy”. He is so, so controlling. I almost feel like one of the producers needs to have a stern word!

Lucie was totally flirting with Tommy & it was very over the top as well as rude for them to be whispering in the group like that. I don't agree with how Joe says it, but I get why he'd be pissed off with her behaviour with Tommy. I'm not buying her fake innocence & tears.

Agreed. She’s gone from crying because she’s in a triangle and hates the attention to chasing the attention and recreating a triangle

I feel really sorry for Lucie. The confusion about her situation was writ large on her face during the conversation with Joe. It's fortunate that both Tommy and Maura had her back and told her Joe was being unreasonable.

Most of the contestants have been in the villa for a fortnight now. There's not much to do other than talk about each other and analyse behaviour. No-one is "bitchy", they're just in a weird, edited microcosm.

But that look on Amy's face!

I don't remember one person being ganged up on in any of the previous series

Obviously the show is edited but it's really obvious that Amy, Anna and Amber now get the boot into Lucie whenever they can. Amy plays the victim all the time - it's so unpleasant.

I totally get Lucie crying. When I was younger and people were having a go at me personally, I didnt have the confidence to say "ok, you dont like how I act. Tough shit".

I also really struggled to stand up for myself. It made me feel frustrated and I would cry out of frustration. Not to play the victim. It's an awful feeling knowing people are talking about you, criticising you to your face and feeling totally stuck about doing anything about it.

When someone is telling you, you shouldnt do something that's normal for you (being friends with men) and you arent good at standing up for yourself and you are confused and cant Express yourself. Again tears of frustration can happen. Not about playing the victim or going over the top.

Amy is definitely bullying Lucie. That showed when one of the first cinverstations she had with Elma was about Lucie and her not mixing with them much. You can talk about editing all you want but that converstation happened the night Elma and Maura went in. There was no need to get straight in and talk tell her about that, pretty much straight away.

If Amy was really just thinking Lucie would be happier spending more time with the girls and finding some female friends, she would have not mentioned it. Let the new girls make up their own mind and hope Lucie got on with them. But she didnt she got in there with that converstation first.

I also dont think whispering is rude. It's usually labelled rude by people who think they have a right to listen into peoples converstation. Not everyone wants everyone else to hear what they are saying. If Tommy had come over and said 'Lucie let's go for a chat', the girls would have been saying 'see she sits with us and fucks off with a boy the second one wants to speak to her' or implied Tommy wanted to chat to her about picking her.

The look on Amy's face, again could be a bit of editing, but the look was on her face when Lucie walked past her to Joe and hugged him. So it wasnt a look from a different point and then edited into look like it was a reaction about Lucie. It was a reaction to that.

At some point the producers are going to have to do something about Amy (and possibly Amber) and Joe. Lucie having to walk to get out of the situation will receive a massive backlash. The producers will not have missed that lots of people are concerned about Joe's behaviour and Amy's.

I completely agree @Shequakes

My feeling is that if Amy were to leave the island now, things would improve quite dramatically for Lucie.

I'm glad Maura probably isn't going just yet. Yes, she's OTT, but she's certainly made it more entertaining this week. If I were the producers I'd try and engineer it to get her evicted, leave it a week, and then bring her back as Tommy's 'temptation' in Casa Amor, assuming they're going there again this year.

I read that they aren't doing Casa Amor this year. Maybe something else?

I dont think Tommy would bring her back from Casa Amour.

Wether he fancies her or not. I think he is playing the long game. He knew if he picked Maura, people would label him as someone who picked the person who was quite happy to do bits and more. And that, that was the only reason he picked her.

Maura, may keep flirting with Tommy to keep the cameras on her. But, as last night showed, she will couple up with anyone to stay in. If she couples up with a man then keeps this level of desperation for Tommy, she risks that man not picking her at a recoupling and could go home.

There will be an equivalent of casa amour. Something that makes the couples doubt eachother.

I started watching at the point the men came back from casa amour last year. It created of drama.

As someone who’s been in a controlling relationship. Joe scares me, he screams controlling narcissist. I can see it in his eyes 😕 anyone else see it? Feel sorry for lucie! It’s obvious she’s one of the guys you can tell she isn’t faking it! Poor girl 😢 Amy and Amber are complete bitches!