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GAME OF THRONES: THE FINAL EPISODE. Monday 20th May. Spoilers after 2am.

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OneInAMillionYou · 19/05/2019 01:38

It's here.

Eight seasons of love, hate, family, battles, history, mystery, myth and legend.

After laying waste to Kings' Landing, what next for Daenerys? Does destiny feel good when you kill thousands of innocents to reach it?

I will really miss these characters and their stories. Epic, must-watch television is rare. Will we ever see its like again?

And now our watch is ended.

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agirlhasnonameX · 20/05/2019 11:16

GRRM’s endings are fairly well-know for being ambiguous, depressing and anti-climactic.
Anti-climactic it was, but ambiguous and depressing? It was probably the happiest ending anyone could have hoped for and I don't think it was ambiguous, a mass murderer couldn't be allowed to keep the Throne.

It was absolutely time to bring it to and end and I don't blame D&D for wanting to move on with their lives at all, there is nothing worse than a TV show that starts great and ruins itself by milking its popularity and profit and ends up terrible, but I think one episode between this one and last would have went a long way.

Lweji · 20/05/2019 11:23

How did Grey Worm materialise at the top of the stairs by Dany before Jon got there when Jon just passed him killing people.

Yes!

Lweji · 20/05/2019 11:25

And I wish Tyrion's reason had been something other than 'You have a good story.'

Did you miss what he said after that?
He's the story keeper too. Which was also the reason why the NK wanted him killed, supposedly.

SweetSummerchild · 20/05/2019 11:26

agirlhasnonameX it’s a weird thing though. Half the complaints I’ve seen say it’s too bitter to be bittersweet and half are saying ti’s too sweet.

Bran on the throne could make perfect sense if the whole ‘conspiracy of the children of the forest to rule over humanity’ aspect was at least partially left open. However, it wasn’t.

My big bug bear was the makeup of the ‘small council’ which could have been part of a year 10 pupil’s fanfiction.

Other aspects of the episode were done really well.

Still can’t decide how I feel about it, but that goes for the whole of this season (unlike last season which I just outright hated).

fancynancyclancy · 20/05/2019 11:33

Remember when Tyrion asked Bran to tell him his stories, I think it was before the long night. Obvs Bran was like I want to be King!

GilmoreMe · 20/05/2019 11:36

I have just watched. I haven't read through the entire thread yet but can see, generally people are not happy with that ending...
I am fuming that bran ended up on the throne but the rest has ended just as it should in my opinion.
Sansa, Queen of a free north. Just what she wanted and I think deserved.
Jon, back where he belongs and with ghost too! He would have been miserable anywhere else.
Ayra, not living by anyone else's rules. Perfect ending for her.
Tyrion is alive. That's all I wanted from this!
Dani had to die and I'm glad Jon pulled it off.
I'm glad we saw Brienne again and Sam. They've also ended up doing what they should be doing.
So all in all I'm happy. I mean it shouldn't have been Bran but who else could it have been?

ineedsomeinspiration · 20/05/2019 11:36

I liked it, however having binge watched the last 7 series over a few months I am not quite as invested in the outcome as others and having recently watched the series can see Dani has always had to have her more sadistic tendencies tamed.
Surely Bran actually isn't a bad choice for king as he has all the knowledge of the centuries and can learn from all others mistakes?b Also having no emotional attachment to anyone will mean he would always lead with his head rather than his heart?
I liked Ayra going West, couldn't see what else she could do really and I really want to know what's west of westeros too.
The bits I thought were daft were Tyrion finding Cersei and Jamie and why didn't Jon just lie about killing Dani.

MsMarvellous · 20/05/2019 11:40

why didn't Jon just lie about killing Dani

At a guess grief, honour and duty. He sacrificed a bit of himself and put his life at risk to "break the wheel" and end things.

MsMarvellous · 20/05/2019 11:41

One other thing. Did none of Varys' letters about Jon's heritage get out? Surely all the people there would be the people he wrote to. I get the feeling a conversation about ghat was cut in an edit as it was a big gap.

itswinetime · 20/05/2019 11:44

Jaime and Cersei were incredibly clean and uncrushed/unbloodied looking for two people squashed to death by falling masonry hmm

They were also only under about 6 bricks in room that only partially collapsed Biscuit it was emotional but not exactly realistic.

agirlhasnonameX · 20/05/2019 11:44

Bran on the throne could make perfect sense
It could and should make perfect sense, but show Bran being on the 'Throne' makes no sense.

I don't know what's bitter about it really, if last weeks episode was how it ended, absolutely. Again it should have been, but Dani's death was so emotionless and after all that she seemed to go very quickly.

Does anyone know if the Game Revealed/Inside the episode is the thing that's on TV next week and that's why it's not up on YouTube?

itswinetime · 20/05/2019 11:45

That was meant to be a wink not a biscuit damm lack of sleep!

desperatelyseekingcaffeine · 20/05/2019 11:48

I actually liked it, though if you'd asked me before I was dreading the thought of Bran on the throne. It makes sense of his journey so far. As the 3ER he can see and understand past and present and how that links into the future. He's not a good character, I think he could have stopped at least the burning of KL if not the destruction of the night king, but allowed it all to happen in order to break the wheel. Short term destruction for potential long term gains of a more democratic system.

In terms of independence, I think the North earnt theirs by defeating the night king. Also Sansa only didn't declare it before as she knew Dany would kill her/burn Winterfell whereas Bran is hardly going to do that. It has set a precedent that the others will follow, probably Yara first as it was promised to her by Dany.

I agree, what happened between Jon killing Dany and the next scene?! He wasn't seen and the body was gone so how did they know he put a knife through her heart? And could have done without Bronn, I loved his character initially but not the whole crossbow thing.

bigKiteFlying · 20/05/2019 11:51

I liked Jon Snow ending, Sansa's and even Arya, Dany's, Drogon and Grey Worm - they all seemed fitting to me.

Not so sure about Bran being king - though it did give him a point of being I suppose and explained why he was shown the thrown covered in ash.

Did like the tentative steps to a more democratic system - kings getting chosen not born and liked the iron thrown being melted.

Thought the small council bickering and getting on with rebuilding was good

I think overall it did a much better job than I expected tying everything up – and the bits watching the Stark children in their new roles at end I liked. I didn’t like Jon ending till he got to Castle Black and found the wildlings waiting there and Ghost then it seemed very fitting.

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Lweji · 20/05/2019 11:54

I really liked not only the bickering in the small council, but the end of the discussion going to brothels. Very fitting!

bigKiteFlying · 20/05/2019 11:57

why didn't Jon just lie about killing Dani.

I thought I heard the doors to the hall opening and assumed the Unsullied guards would appear bit where Drogon first started to roar but before he came to find his mother dead.

Though it was a bit of a leap to the sudden meeting of the Lords of Westeros where he talked of a prisoner.

Lweji · 20/05/2019 11:58

Upon reflection, about Jon not being killed by the Unsullied, for one, they didn't have the Queen there to give them orders, nor the dragon to apply justice, so they must have been a tad unsure about what to do and who to obey.
Presumably, Grey Worm knew it wasn't a good idea to have a face off with Jon either. Imagine Sansa and the northern armies coming down on them without their dragon and queen.

MoominMantra · 20/05/2019 12:00

I think Jon would have been prepared to die for what he did. He's not really the type to lie is he?

agirlhasnonameX · 20/05/2019 12:00

And presumably Dany didn't kill Tyrion because she was too busy/interested in what was happening so decided to leave it for later right?

BurntSausage · 20/05/2019 12:02

I’ve never been Emilia Clark’s biggest fan but I’ve really warmed to her this series. I just side with baddies, I think, as I loved Cersei too.

Watching it again I thought Emilia was brilliant in the scene just before Jon kills her, when she’s smiling and recounting the story of her being little and imaging the throne, talking like she hadn’t just murdered a whole city, talking like the ‘old Dany’. It really seemed to emphasise that she’d been this way all along - almost like she’s the acceptable face of tyranny.

Pissoffbranthebroken · 20/05/2019 12:03

what a Liberty!!!

Bran as king? This sneaky bastard, I knew all along he was planning something. So he made everyone fight each other so he could get the throne. What a guy!

Sneaky Sansa can piss off as well.

I’d rather have had Demonic Dany rule all seven kingdoms, not Bran and Sansa!

I honestly need to lie down for a while I can’t quite digest what I’ve just seen.

InglouriousBasterd · 20/05/2019 12:26

I bloody loved it. Perfect ending IMO. Initially felt horrified for Jon’s punishment until i saw Tormund and I realised - the happiest part of his life was with the wildlings.

Loved the mirroring of him holding Dany like he did Ygritte 😭

Just loved it. Perfect to me.

IhateBoswell · 20/05/2019 12:36

My big bug bear was the makeup of the ‘small council’ which could have been part of a year 10 pupil’s fanfiction.

Absolutely this.

Leontine · 20/05/2019 12:44

Just finished watching it. It wasn’t as awful as I thought it was going to be!

My main bug bear was the small council too. Firstly, how has Sam ended up as the Grand Maester when he’s not even earned a single link on his maester’s chain yet and Bronn as Master of Coin. I’m sure it’s in the show canon that he can’t even read. What the hell?

StarbucksSmarterSister · 20/05/2019 12:48

Why am I not surprised that Sansa didn't speak out more for Jon? Queen in the North my arse.

on got well and truly shafted, people didn't even find out he was the real heir! I cried at Ghost and at Brienne finishing Jaime's entry in the book. But WTF Bron and Bronn? Hopefully Tyrion, Davos and Brienne will run the small council and Bronn will just bog off once he gets a brothel built.