Years & Years

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Starts tonight 9pm
Family drama that flashes forward into the future.

I felt that Muriel's rant was a bit heavy-handed and seemed out of place. We get it; we don't need it spelled out to us.

You’re an MFL Teacher and think robots/computers could do the job? Really? I agree that there is a lack of interest but there is no official line that says language learning is unimportant. I suspect there will be issues with British people being able to teach TEFL in Europe post Brexit but why is that a bad thing? Local nationals can do it - MFL teachers in this country do it! Demanding higher qualifications than the TEFL to be allowed to teach in European schools isn’t necessarily a bad thing if it came to that, teaching TEFL shouldn’t just be about gap years.

I think Celeste was protecting both of them. Far worse for Stephen to know that Bethany was watching what he did than that it was relayed. He even bloody smiled as he did it!

Would the extreme left wing party in Spain (that buggered up Viktor's asylum) have lost power after 8 years? Wonder whether it swung the other way or there was a coup or something.
I loved how Bethany aged. She seemed so much older at the end.
Exactly what DD said. The others didn't seem to age as much - hurray for Gran. She'll outlive them all

Wasn’t Gran supposed to be about 1,000 years old by the end?

We get it; we don't need it spelled out to us.

I'm not so sure about that.

I think Muriel had her 90th birthday in about 2024ish?

Maybe there should be another series - starts off the same but a different series of events.

Hmm. I'm actually delighted with my excellent idea. RTD take note.

I was playing bingo with the grab bag of cliches and waiting for the next obvious preach speech from the series of ill developed characters within. Poor script and storyline.

I was hopeful it would improve and get why everyone was raving about it. Nope ....still don't get it. I personally found it lame.

Thankfully there has been brilliant drama enjoy - Chernobyl.

Well she looked good! I really wasn’t convinced by her age at all, but I loved everything else. Episode 4 was the best. I should’ve realised when Viktor said, “I still have your key” that later, he’d be using it alone.

Why not watch something you like then Paul, rather than sitting there sneering at stuff. You’ll give yourself a stomach ulcer if you carry on like that.

If I spent my time watching everything I thought was shit I’d never see daylight.

I loved the whole series.It was classic Russel T Davies - lots of it was reminiscent of Dr Who, like the Turn Left episode.

It felt so close to home sometimes, I actually got goosebumps. Like the USA banning same sex marriage, and reversing Roe vs Wade, and the Spain coup by the ultra left wing party, which turned out to be as bad as the far right.

Loved the family relationships. Would love a second series.

The rant just made me feel guilty cardi as I bought tee shirts last week for 2 euros each from c+a so am part of the problem (except I was doing it for budget reasons rather than bargain).
I'd hope not leave but mfl in the UK is being increasingly marginalised, not helped by the fact it's no longer compulsory at key stage 4. Add Industry 4.0 to the equation and how schooling might change as a whole, I am not sure what the future holds.
I don't think Brits being unable to do tefl post brexit is necessarily a bad thing - I mentioned the likelihood of it as a plot hole to Steven living in Spain and teaching English there in 2032.

I don't think the issue of teaching in Spain is a plot hole. It's entirely reasonable to assume that, over the course of 15 years post Brexit and after all that upheaval, they might have negotiated some sensible treaties including a degree of free movement. Who knows, they might have the sense to reverse the whole stupid idea.

His police check clearance might have put a spanner in the works, mind

I loved that Gran decided to make Celeste the fourth beneficiary of her will.

Yes I liked that bit, although I did think, for a minute, she had dementia setting in when she said about the four of them getting their inheritance

I thought she was going to announce Viktor as the fourth beneficiary in lieu of Daniel and was waiting for the on Steven's face. That house did sell for over a million recently.

It annoyed me that Celeste did not put him straight when he accused her of telling Bethany what he had done when it was in fact the other way round

Snap.

Loved Muriel’s rant
Loved her leaving Celeste the quarter of the house

It was a strangely happier ending than I was expecting !! Great series

No more £1 t shirts! She made a point didn’t she

www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2019-06-18/years-and-years-ending-explained-russell-t-davies-interview/

Interview with RTD about last episode. No sequel planned

I’m going to watch it again tonight. I think I missed some crucial bits due to be knackered.

I think I would have preferred the ending a PP outlined up thread, where it goes full circle back to Danny’s rant in episode 1 and it was all just his imagination....or was it a premonition? There would have been something quite simply poetic about it.

I had noticed that Lin(coln) had transitioned by the end scene, did not realise that Rosie's new baby was named Daniel (nice touch) and that that the whole breakneck ride over the past six episodes had been dying Edith downloading her memories (thanks telegraph)
I still wasn't keen on the style ending/cliffhanger but I like that RTD loves it so much and thinks his last line (Is that you?) is perfect, bless him. I thought Jessica Hynes did beatific well...
They’re love. That’s what I’m becoming: love. I am love.
The transcendent love bit reminded me of the end of Still Alice when the daughter is reading from Tony Kusher's angels in America about nothing being lost forever and asks her mum what she feels/what the passage is about - Love, she replies before there is footage of the two of them in the past on the screen.
We continue in the memories of the living so the idea that our memories being uploaded to a cloud = an afterlife is interesting even though I personally hate the idea of immortality/an eternal consciousness (give me a cloud and a sure, but turning me into a virtual ghost talking through Senor doesn't sound as cool as being an actual ghost )

He went for upbeat, he's quite sentimental (some whovians hate that, I liked him for it) but I did appreciate some digital spy poster predicting a much much darker end (gran dying of old age, edith dying from radiation, viktor dying in Erstwhile or Bethany ending up switching with him like Boy in Striped Pyjamas to serve Steven right). Happy, happy, happy.
I think Danny reappearing and it being one possible future/premonition would have been too much It was all a dream territory (still not over Sue Townsend doing that in the Queen and I).
But I enjoyed the series as a whole and hope RTD picks up an award or two.
Although Utopia remains my favourite dystopian series ever.
I also still have Tschernobyl to see at some point which everyone has raved about.

Didn’t like it. As usual from Russel, it was self indulgent preachy bollocks.

No more £1 t shirts!
I've always felt very cynical about this argument. I want proof that a child choking on picking cotton in India is paid more than 0.001 penny if we pay £15 or £150 for a tee shirt. I'm not convinced they are. Profit float to the top of the market chain.