Line of Duty definately part 3.

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Here is a new thread for when the old one is full.

I think Nige was/is too low down in the pecking order to be H. He's not dum though - very cunning and manages to get out from under Dot's control to achieve the retirement he wanted.

We've been led to believe 'H' is a top ranking officer but there aren't many candidates are there?

There aren’t. It’s definitely been made out that H is very high ranking, but I’m not sure that it has ever been said explicitly. I need to watch the end of S3 again (getting there) to remember what Dot says to Kate.

I can see them thinking it would be ironic that everyone’s been looking at the top brass while it’s an unassuming, apparently unambitious guy like Morton running the show...

I don’t know, I’m probably wrong. Like I said before, we haven’t seen many officers that I think would be capable of running an OCG. It’s either someone we are very familiar with and who’s pretending to be useless / harmless, or someone who’s been involved from early on but we’ve forgotten about. They brought Hargreaves back in to the show to remind us he existed - if we see other old characters turn up then I’ll be mightily suspicious. This is why I’m wondering about Moffat.

What is the “police federation reps” are really the dodgy ones overall?

I don't think it's Morton; he wouldn't have grassed on Dot (in exchange for im-mu-ni-ty!) if he was top dog.

I do think it's likely it's someone outside of the force, or not actually a serving police officer (like Gill, or one of the other external candidates which have been mentioned). The assumption that it's a serving officer may be AC-12's big mistake.

I reckon James Lakewell has a bigger part than we've been led to believe. He went to prison but said NOTHING to police. Simply no comment all the way through police interviews and then nothing at Trial. That's very interesting.

I can't see it being Nick Huntley. He's a bit wet and seemed genuinely concerned about gang members etc.

Mrs H / Mrs H's new man? Something isn't right there.

Moffat? Not H, but definitely involved in something shady on the outskirts.

Could Moffat perhaps be Mr Laverty? Millionaire property developer...?

I think it's more likely it's his employer, as otherwise he'd have had to lead a double life while in the police.

Oh my goodness! Late review I know as I'm a day late, but I had my hands to my mouth when they slit John's throat!

I’ve got a theory. This week, when Ted went in to that glass-walled office to give the Wee Gobshite a bollocking, he sort of nods before The WG asks if they can do it somewhere less public. That nod could mean ‘are you ready? Let’s get on with it’. Very odd that Ted would do such a public dressing-down, and be so angry, in such a determined and obvious way. Everyone (including Kate) was very aware of it, and Kate did quite a few of her Looks. That contrasts with how not cross Ted was when the WG and Kate told him last week that the WG had been having trysts with JC. Also, as someone else said, why wasn’t he suspended/disciplined?

Also in the Wild West stand-off between JC and the WG, Ted kept yelling Fahrenheit - could be a code for ‘don’t shoot’ or something.

No idea why they would be colluding, and whether it would be for good or bad. Don’t know how that fits in with Ted being shady, or the Northern Irish links.

Fahrenheit means shoot him.

Fahrenheit means shoot him and aim to kill but am I right in thinking that Steve came to AC-12 because of taking issue with a Fahrenheit order in season one?

As i recall Steve GAVE the Fahrenheit order in series 1 but the armed police were in the wrong house and an innocent man died. His gaffer wanted him to cover this up in the enquiry but he refused. Then he moved to AC-12.

Yes, in s1e1 Osborne gives Steve the Fahrenheit order and then Steve passes it on to the team. I think they’re very deliberately reminding us of that scene.

Is Fahrenheit a play on words for 'fire at height', as in head / chest shot to kill rather than firing low to stop in tracks?

Could Roisin’s new man be the Irish guy that’s trying to recoup Ted’s lost money?

Can we use people's character names (as in Arnott instead of the WG) ?

There are enough acronyms to wade through!

Is Fahrenheit a play on words for 'fire at height', as in head / chest shot to kill rather than firing low to stop in tracks?

I was wondering what precisely Fahrenheit means. I notice episode 1 of series 1 was called Fahrenheit.

From what was going on at the time I thought that it def meant shoot if not shoot to kill.

Is it just a word being used by JM for LoD?

Just seen that Coronation Street are about to launch a sex trafficking storyline........to join all the other tv dramas this year.

Anna Maxwell Martin's character is apparently an anti-corruption DCS. I reckon we're going to see Ted investigated and she will need to lead the interviews as she is one rank senior!

I still say the Season 1 social worker is H - there is no way the character would have been given the surname Hargreaves as coincidence.

We may not find this out until the next series though. I suspect this series may end with Ted in prison and the next series will exonerate him.

I didn't realise the Episodes had names! How did I miss that?

The guy playing the PCC hasn't done much for a well-known actor. Maybe there's a political link to H? I suspect we may never know who H is.

Shocked that they’ve got rid of John. I’m clueless. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Lakewell. I’m also wondering if Mrs H’s new fella has something to do with it.

Been thinking about the scene when Corbett was on his phone to his wife while she was reading a bedtime story to their children was meant to convey two things.

The first is that he knew (having mortally wounded Hargreaves and tortured Mrs H) that his only options now were either a life sentence or death so he was trying to give his wife, for one brief moment, the illusion of a possible "happy ever after" for them both, just at the moment when she was doing the same for their children. It was meant to show that the basic humanity of the man hadn't been completely extinguished but was fighting back through the insanity.

The second is that as he had already crossed the line by shooting Hargreaves, he had a "might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb" moment and settled a personal score by torturing Roisin but was then horrified by his own actions and by what he had become. I think he decided then to redeem himself in some way by saving others - the poor terrified trafficked women - knowing that his days were numbered anyway. His miscalculation was that Lisa, as a woman and possibly a past victim of abuse, might be ready to do the same. She clearly isn't. Not yet anyway. Yet she doesn't lack empathy altogether so I think she might surprise us in the next episode.

I think Fahrenheit is the code name for approval of lethal force, not just shooting - pretty sure AFOs already have that authorisation when they go in? I think it’s just a very recognisable word that can’t be misheard over the radio.

You’d think they’d change the word every so often though, especially with all those leaks.

Been thinking about the scene when Corbett was on his phone to his wife while she was reading a bedtime story to their children was meant to convey two things.

Did I miss that? I thought Corbett’s call with his wife came earlier, and her reading the bedtime story was intercut with Corbett’s murder.

Oh, and I think H is a position in the hierarchy, not a place or a specific person. A bit like the Chief of MI6 always being referred to as C (after Mansfield Cummings, the first chief - the Bond movies cheekily pinched M as their equivalent).

I'm wondering if the original H had a first name or surname that began with H and their replacement or replacements kept the same designation. That would explain why H has apparently being going since the 1970s and why the focus has changed over the years from child abuse to money laundering to trafficking. Each H might have their own particular business model.

I'm also wondering if the finale might reveal the identity of the current H but it would already be too late. The baton might have already passed to H's successor....hence Series 6.