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The great British School swap..

173 replies

Dickorydockwhatthe · 16/04/2019 21:33

Any one watching this?? Finding it really interesting so far.

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Aeroflotgirl · 17/04/2019 07:13

Usually kids views are shaped at home. I think we like to feel that we live in a tolerant society, but scratch the surface, there is still the racism and anti homophobia seen from the 60/70s.

Homefireburn1ng · 17/04/2019 07:15

But those schools must be hearing it. They are clearly not dealing with it.

Homefireburn1ng · 17/04/2019 07:17

At my dc’s schools any language like that would be dealt with severely. There is no way such views and language are completely hidden within school.

Tulipsarefab · 17/04/2019 07:17

OFSTED do pick up on these things. We were recently part of the new pilot OFSTED for the new framework being used in September and they spoke to lots of children. They were asked what they would do if a male friend came to school in a girl’s uniform and how they would feel if a child had two mums. PSHE is becoming statutory again and covers things such as these.

Tulipsarefab · 17/04/2019 07:18

...and that’s in a primary school.

Homefireburn1ng · 17/04/2019 07:20

So why haven’t they dealt with it?I see one school is RI but the other is deemed Good.Shock

Tulipsarefab · 17/04/2019 07:26

Maybe they’ve not had an OFSTED in a while. We were done in 2017 and they didn’t even speak to the children. The new inspection framework is completely different.

Homefireburn1ng · 17/04/2019 07:26

There is something wrong with the system when Ofsted don’t identify or deal with severe racism, homophobia and ignorance.

Homefireburn1ng · 17/04/2019 07:29

Both done in 2018.Confused

Mind you isn’t the city with the parents protesting against same sex penguins in picture books?

Glad I don’t live anywhere near Birmingham.

Tulipsarefab · 17/04/2019 07:33

As I said, the old OFSTED wouldn’t have had a clue what our children’s views were on such things. All they were interested in was data when we were done in 2017. They didn’t look in kids’ books or talk to kids.
The new framework doesn’t start until September, but we were part of the pilot and were inspected under the new rules.
This new way will certainly highlight these issues. Whether anything is done about it who knows?

Homefireburn1ng · 17/04/2019 07:38

Ah that’s reassuring, didn’t realise the new framework hadn’t started.It’s clearly needed.

xcatricorniax · 17/04/2019 09:28

I agree she is very rude - well done to Lucas for remaining so calm and mature in the situation, it must have been quite awkward for her. And also to the classmate that stood up for her in front of Kiran and her friends!

Flaverings · 17/04/2019 10:04

I thought that the whole "half-caste" incident was very thought-provoking. A case of offensive behaviour being down to genuine ignorance. And it's all too easy and unhelpful to respond with shouts of "you're racist!".

How should we manage such incidents? I thought the teacher handled it very well.

(As a child of the 80s I was quite stunned at the casual use of the n- word and p- word in this programme).

Rwnf · 17/04/2019 10:31

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Rwnf · 17/04/2019 10:35

Why on earth would you introduce yourself as part of the LGBT community when your teacher only asked your name and something interesting about yourself - the teacher meant your hobbies, your interests - not some completely unnecessary disclosure about your sexual orientation and sexual preferences - just attention seeking and then later complain of bullying. Sexuality is something to talk about privately among friends or at least people you have got to know - not to a class full of strangers.

No wonder there is opposition to LGBT lessons when that is the only comment Lucas could come out with 'being part of LGBT community' rather than I like playing football, I like painting' and then making friends with Asian classmates as a person not as a LGBT member. Teacher could talk about LGBT further into class swop. Why tell new classmates on first day you are bisexual - it is not normal conversation to discuss your sexual preferences with strangers - it is nobody elses business but your own and if you decide to make it the sole topic of your conversation then expect endless questions and curiosities rather than people getting to know you as a person.

Flaverings · 17/04/2019 10:52
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woodhill · 17/04/2019 10:55

Yes I think so Rnf. It's good to hold back. Sexuality is a small part of us.

Flaverings · 17/04/2019 11:00

Firstly, this reflects merely your frame of reference, No wonder vulnerable white girls were groomed by Asian male gangs when there is such a lack of respect towards white people from the Asian community.

You are totally discounting the rape and sexual abuse of non-white victims and survivors and non-Asian perpetrators. For some reason you focus on the minority of cases with a racial element.

Secondly, Why on earth would you introduce yourself as part of the LGBT community when your teacher only asked your name and something interesting about yourself - the teacher meant your hobbies, your interests - not some completely unnecessary disclosure about your sexual orientation and sexual preferences - just attention seeking and then later complain of bullying. Sexuality is something to talk about privately among friends or at least people you have got to know - not to a class full of strangers.

A lot of people learn from experience to quickly explain certain characteristics about themselves. They quickly explain that they are straight (despite being camp) or blind (despite wearing sunglasses) or that they have MS (despite appearing perfectly well this morning) etc etc. They have learned to just get it out there early doors.

Why tell new classmates on first day you are bisexual - it is not normal conversation to discuss your sexual preferences with strangers - it is nobody elses business but your own and if you decide to make it the sole topic of your conversation then expect endless questions and curiosities rather than people getting to know you as a person.

I disagree, I think that sexuality is a highly political and public issue. I note that you didn't have a problem with the (white, straight) person talking about her ex's vasectomy.

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SimonJT · 17/04/2019 11:15

Rwnf do you have any idea how much damage is caused because people have to pretend to be something they’re not?

Flaverings · 17/04/2019 11:17

But politically correct agenda is also offensive

What?

Rwnf · 17/04/2019 11:24

The teacher wanted child's name and their interests/hobbies - not each child's sexual orientation/sexual preferences - and was completely inappropriate and unnecessary to introduce yourself as part of the LGBT community as an opening statement - just attention seeking - should teachers now ask new classmates what is your name, interests/hobbies and sexual orientation/preferences when being introduced to their class?

Rwnf · 17/04/2019 11:32

Lucas had no need to disclose LGBT sexual preferences as an opening statement - become friends through shared interests/hobbies as a person not an LGBT community member - talk about LGBT later.

bookmum08 · 17/04/2019 11:48

The ignorance about some of the basics of Islam were shocking. My daughter is just a few years younger and has learned about Islam at school - and not because we live in a multi cultural area but because it's on the National Curriculum.
I learned about Islam at my mostly white Midlands school in the 80s.
I have more to add but need to do something. Back soon.....

Rwnf · 17/04/2019 11:48

Yes I thought Lucas was rude too not to try the generous food offered.

The children were also asked to introduce themselves - their names, hobbies/interests - not their LGBT status - all the straight children didn't declare I'm heterosexual.

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