21 kids and counting

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Just watching the latest episode - how on earth do they afford to run that household? iPhones for the kids, holidays to Spain for 20 people, a new kitchen.

There is no way a bakery would generate that much money. Would channel 4 really pay that well for their participation in the programme?

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Ffs. Ask a simple question. Does it tell you he's neglectful? Does it tell you he's violent? Does it tell you he doesn't have much time to spend with them? Why be an arse?

last night its was so false.

the normal routine of waiting for yet another baby to come home like they had nipped to cost cutter to get a box of magnum ice creams.

They need to move

That will be the next episode. “Radfords upsize for baby number 22”

Those small children were running ferel

No when I saw her screeching at them they were all gathered round her sitting on a counter top waiting for her to pour of do something food wise and she was screeching at them to move out of the way. At least one of the kids was a toddler absolutely distraught and howling it’s little head off and no-one was attending to her. Just screeching at her. Awful.

Indeed Hubanmao - You can't silence fact though, Sue was a child when she first got pregnant.

I don't know of any families where walls are ripped out, tv's smashed up and children sit in fridges eating cheese like some feral animal whilst all around them there are babies screaming, toddlers are beating ten bales of shit out of each other and teens are stacked 3 to a room.

Was that befire or after they'd been crawling over the counter, trying to stick their hand in the bowl while she was whisking and generally being in the way and not listening

I haven’t watched this episode yet. I have mixed feelings on the Radford family which is unusual as it seems most people are in the ‘can’t stand them’ camp or the ‘omg they’re so amazing and inspirational!!’

I watched a house tour on their YouTube and it seemed spacious enough. All the young adult children had their own room and all the young kids were on the very top floor with the parents separate from the older kids. It didn’t seem any more cramped than my squished newbuid 3 storey town house feels with three children.

Like lots of people though I can’t quite get over the fact he got her pregnant at 13. I think that overshadows all of it really.

I also predict there will be another baby or 2 for Sue. They will never actively prevent pregnancy. When she stops having babies it will be because she’s reached an age where she can no longer conceive, not an active choice.

Baby 22 due and a massive house move will be the next to air.

For a long time the opinions on MN about them seemed to be in the minority. Now however the way they are perceived on places like Twitter and in the papers seems to be changing to a more negative view. More people are questioning the whole no benefits, wholesome loving family dynamic they try to convey in the programmes. It’s only really on their personal Facebook page that you get people fully idolising them (which I always found a bit weird in itself). I wonder if eventually they will give up on the media stuff altogether if the backlash gets too much? I wonder how some of the comments affect the kids as well. It must be very hard having your family splashed across the media constantly.

Was that befire or after they'd been crawling over the counter, trying to stick their hand in the bowl while she was whisking and generally being in the way and not listening

No idea, does it matter? Is screeching at children ok if they’re poorly parented?

I don't see how this thread can be removed like the other one has been. We are actively discussing facts about something which was broadcast on TV for public consumption. No different to the threads about Luther or any other TV show, yes they are a real family but they decided to have these TV shows so we should be allowed to discuss the content.

Just had a nose at their social media.

Seems their new kitchen came via Zanussi and Quooker.

Sue looked about 12 in their wedding photo, despite the heavy make up. I can’t imagine how young she would have looked when she was 13.

Before I comment at all on any aspect of that family, how can anyone get past the fact he got her pregnant at 13?!

How can anyone just ignore that and go on to see they seem nice?

She's been manipulated and brainwashed her entire life.

She's been made into a baby making machine. He gives me the creeps

What's the obsession with having more and more DC?

There was a photo online before of them with their first baby when he was a tiny newborn but it seems to have disappeared..

I'm saying that under the circumstances we should cut her a break really.

They aren't her kids.

She didn't chose to have them

Her mum and dad get all the attentions and glory for getting knocked up having them and then she gets them dumped on her to look after , probably told to do something creative rather than have them be filmed watching tv.

Whether or not you approved, well i think her scenes were the more realistic ones.

Undisciplined, overwhelmed , over tired, destructive kids who don't listen and whis parents don't care enough to hire anyone ekse to look after them do they?

They don't worry about whether she screeches too much do they?

Surprised that brands want to be associated with this family. What is so good about them? Bringing 21 children into an already overpopulated world is certainly nothing to congratulate them on.

I have 2 siblings and would never in a million years have wanted any more. There is no way each child receives individual attention from the parents.

I hate the way the older girls have to look after the youngsters. The boys don't have to though do they?

I hate the way they have to sleep god knows how many in a room with bunk beds, no posters, no individual anything and looking like a hostel.

They don't worry about whether she screeches too much do they?

That was exactly my point! They don’t care who looks after their children and the fact that she doesn’t want to, can’t cope, yells at them. She shouldn’t be babysitting any children.

I don't condone teen pregnancies but it's a fact that lots of 13 and 14yo do get pregnant but most of them have the pregnancy terminated. The Radford's chose to keep the baby, supported by their own parents, and their relationship (and subsequent marriage) has lasted over 29 years.

She's 23 isn't she?

She's been working for 9 years on the bakery and is a free on tap babysitter whis no doubt been told to lie on camera given the complete turn a round.

Those kids do nothing but fight , destroy stuff and cry . Honestly I think she's done bloody well so far tbh. Think I'd have snapped way worse by now. And I've got 15 years on her...

Apologies if this has already been posted but this is front page on the Mail online.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6556235/Mother-21-shocks-TV-viewers-revealing-just-13-time-pregnant.html

I’ve always been left feeling uncomfortable about this family.

This was no fumble between a couple of 13 or 14 year old teenagers. This was abuse of a 13 year by an 18 year old. And regardless of how it’s dressed up it will never be anything different.

What will they do when the sponsorships dry up? I guess that will happen before they stop having babies.

I don’t think anyone needs to be a psychotherapist to see that having both been in care and adopted feeds into their desire to be defined by their reproduction.