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SCD 16 Glitter ball on the horizon🕺 💃

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xsquared · 08/12/2018 20:24

Glitterball Shiny new thread.

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TheDrsDocMartens · 10/12/2018 17:37

They normally do them without the make up. That’s what they did for Chelsea and Pashas Shrek dance anyway

Satsumaeater · 10/12/2018 17:43

If you follow Alijaz on Instagram he seems very broody for a baby so wonder if they're planning a family

I was hoping that when I saw they'd got married.

Miscible · 10/12/2018 19:07

I wondered if they'll be prevented from opting for Couple's Choice dances in the final, on the basis that they may be too similar to the Show dance.

covetingthepreciousthings · 10/12/2018 19:14

A bit late to the new thread party.. but finally checking in Glitterball

Jitters22 · 10/12/2018 19:44

I would have much preferred Charles in the final instead of Ashley.

And I would have much preferred Charles in the final instead of Joe BECAUSE CHARLES IS A MUCH BETTER DANCER.

It doesn't matter what we 'prefer'. It doesn't matter who comes from a dance background and who doesn't. It comes down to the producers of the show who deliberately choose this diverse mix of young attractive people, older people, people with no dance experience, the token soap star, the token pop star, the token competitors of different ethnic background, the token blonde blue eyed beauty ... and then add to that, people with no dance experience, some dance experience, people with a lot of dance experience and put them together in the hope of creating some kind of alchemy to create a Saturday night show that steals all the ratings and has people talking about it on social media and forums everywhere.

And they achieve it every time because the mugs out there fall for it every time. Get someone with dance experience on and he or she is going to get flack. Get some hopeless, wooden celebrity who can't dance on there, and he or she is going to get flack.

And then people start analysing their character - she puts her arm around her dance partner (and she's all over him!) she stops smiling for a moment (she's moody) and so on. It's ridiculous.

The flack Ashley has taken is absolutely disgusting! She was invited onto the show and she's a fantastic dancer. She works as hard as anyone else and she performs as well as anyone else. Technically she is probably the best celebrity dancer the show has ever seen but that isn't her fault. What do people want her to do? Go out and dance badly on purpose?

The producers of Strictly knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they invited Ashley onto the show - she's not the first great dancer who has appeared on the show, and she won't be the last. What might have surprised them is how good she is ... and make no mistake she is very, very good indeed.

The spite, vitriol and downright cruelty that has been directed at her is horrendous.

How about Faye - who clearly, from every balletic turn of her toe has had lots of dance training? Where's the vitriol and nastiness aimed at her?

And what about Joe who's survival in this competition is down to the fact that he has millions of online followers and has bugger all to do with his ability to dance. If this was a dance competition there is no way on earth he would have sailed through round after round without once being in the bottom two.

Ashley is the best dancer and she knows she won't win and I'm sure she's known that from the beginning. But that doesn't mean she shouldn't enjoy the process, it doesn't mean all her hard work shouldn't be appreciated and it doesn't mean she should have to endure the nasty, spiteful, bigoted online criticism that has been aimed at her.

That American Smooth she did on Saturday was one of the best dances I've every seen on Strictly and there is no way on God's earth anyone dancing that, to that level should have ended up in the bottom two and rightly the judges put her through against a lesser dancer as they have done for the past two weeks.

This is a dance competition and if you want everyone coming in on a level playing field with the same level of experience, training, competence and so on then you need to write to the producers. Not subject someone who has clearly put her heart and soul into the competition, someone who has made her life in the UK .. to such appalling online bullying.

Habadabadoo · 10/12/2018 19:48

I did comment on Saturday I think Ashley should come back as a pro dancer next year Grin

theliverpoolone · 10/12/2018 20:11

Hear hear, Jitters22. I barely read this thread/other online forums now as the nastiness is so unpleasant. Much happier just watching, and enjoying, Ashley's incredible dancing, and her love of dancing, on my own. I for one will probably vote for her on Saturday, if hers are the dances I enjoy the most.

Lottapianos · 10/12/2018 20:27

'The flack Ashley has taken is absolutely disgusting!'

I agree. I feel so sorry for her. She's obviously someone who pushes herself extremely hard and has high standards for herself. She's incredibly talented and must feel like she's being punished for that

xsquared · 10/12/2018 20:32

It's like Alexandra Burke all over again. The nasty comments against her week after week, was relentless and tedious.

Not Ashley's fault that she got asked. She's had a difficult year so it must be even more deflating for her to know that she doesn't have the support.

Faye has not endured as much hate but still gets accused of being fake, or OTT on here.

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Binglebong · 10/12/2018 20:45

I find Janette incredibly annoying (back to the bitchingGrin) but I assume it's mostly an act as Aliash would not have fallen in love with her otherwise. The personas we see don't seem to fit together if that makes sense.

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/12/2018 20:47

Jitters a round of applause! I wholeheartedly agree. The nasty comments about Ashley on here really sour what should be a nice thread.

The only thing I don’t agree with is that people should write to the producers - don’t waste your time! They have a winning formula for this show and ringers are absolutely a part of it and that won’t (and shouldn’t) ever change.

I really feel for Alexandra and Ashley to lose a parent and then receive hateful, cruel comments just because they accepted a role on a dance show when they are talented and experienced at dancing. Why should they have turned it down? Both are accused of false modesty but there is literally nothing that Ashley can do or say that won’t be torn to shreds. It’s such a shame.

PawneeParksDept · 10/12/2018 20:50

Yes I remember the nastiness about Alex Burke getting a bit much

Belindabauer · 10/12/2018 20:52

Jitters22 well said.

Figgygal · 10/12/2018 20:53

Finally watched last nights show

What was the song they did the group dance to? It was lovely

Right result on the night

Loved Shirley's dress!!
Feel sorry for Ashley
Loved Stacey Charleston and Faye AT
Joe is out of his depth

I'm still team Faye but wouldn't mind Kevin from Grimsby finally getting the glitter ball

GarethSouthgatesWaistcoat · 10/12/2018 20:54

Still need to catch up the last two pages!

Oh god Keith Lemon. I bet he'd be really leery with his female pro Envy (not envy)
Not really understanding how he'd fit with the beeb's "family show" image Confused

I liked the theming and music of Joe's Argentine tango. Watching back however he didn't really do a lot. Some extra steps and a quicker pace in parts should've been achievable. I suppose they chose to keep it simple on a 2 dance week.

I know Danny Mac was a ringer but I couldn't resist comparing Grin

YearOfYouRemember · 10/12/2018 20:58

There is no vitriol towards Faye because she doesn't go in for fake modesty or sulking when she's announced as last or stropping when in the dance off. Nor is she always pawing someone else's partner.

Jitters22 · 10/12/2018 20:59

It's like Alexandra Burke all over again. The nasty comments against her week after week, was relentless and tedious.

I never really understood the Alexandra Burke thing .. and why she was so disliked, but speaking honestly none of her dances stood out for me. I watched that whole series, but I don't think I ever thought 'how great was that?' or admired her technical ability. Equally though, I never understood why people who have never met her, spoken to her .. could be so cruel.

With Ashley however - that Jive in Blackpool, that contemporary dance and the American Smooth on Saturday - it's not perfection .. but it's not far off. She's got it all, and if Pasha makes a mistake with her he tries to cram too much in. He knows how good she is so he packs it all in and I can understand that, but he leaves no space, no time for real emotion, she's not an actress, she can't bring that element to the dance so she relies on her technical skill. And while you can admire the precision, the musicality, the timing, the technicality .. it's only when Ashley brings the emotion and vulnerability to the dance that you get the whole package and she's done that three times for me.

She's not going to win and we all know it and she knows it. But what I find so sad is that having worked for months she knows that regardless of how superbly she dances she will be the first out. And it's got nothing to do with her dance ability, but everything to do with some public perception of unfairness and dislike of someone who is completely undeserving of all the horrible online vitriol that is aimed at her.

She accepted an invitation from the BBC to enter a dance competition and along with all the other competitors she's gone out week after week and done her best. What on earth gives people the right to attack her in the way they have?

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/12/2018 21:03

Ashley was fighting back tears as many people do when in the dance off particularly for second and subsequent times - not stropping or sulking! God, if she’d pasted on a smile someone on here would jeer at her smiling from arrogance that she knew she was going through. What the hell is she supposed to do with her face??!!

The false modesty accusations are absurd: so, she’s a trained dancer. Does that mean she can’t ever find any aspect of any dance challenging? Do you think when the pros talk about the tricky aspects of their group dances on ITT that they are being falsely modest? No? So why can’t Ashley say that some of Pasha’s (clearly advanced and highly technical choreography) is difficult for her??? It’s not like she’s saying she can’t master the YMCA or something!!

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/12/2018 21:06

Also, Faye has never been in the dance off. For all we know, she throw her shoes at Shirley’s head and run off crying! And she’s constantly saying she struggles with the dances but doesn’t get accused of false modesty.

Don’t know what the pawing of other people’s partners is in reference to but I’ve never noticed it. Was Gemma out of line last year getting together with Gorka even though he was dancing with Alex?

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/12/2018 21:07

Sorry, that should say for all we know she WOULD throw her shoes at Shirley’s head - ie she could have thrown a mega tantrum if put in that position - who knows?? I think Ashley has handled herself with grace.

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CaptainBrickbeard · 10/12/2018 21:15

Oh, someone else’s partner ie Rachel Riley’s partner - I thought that was a reference to Ashley allegedly getting together with Giovanni ie Faye’s pro partner. What an utterly ridiculous accusation, the couples are all incredibly tactile with each other and Ashley in no way stands out as pawing Pasha any more than any of them touch each other!

YearOfYouRemember · 10/12/2018 21:16

I'm not sour or pathetic but it's not like me to be unkind so I'll shut up now.

Samcro · 10/12/2018 21:17

I dont dislike ashley, she is just not my fave , every one has their fave dancer, that is how these shows work.
Someone has to be at the bottom, its not always going to be the worst dancer, its not really just a dance show, imo its also a popularity contest, thats why someone like joe can do better than ashley.

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/12/2018 21:22

Agreed, samcro, it’s not a dance competition really - it’s an entertainment show. There is no requirement for a level playing field. Actors have an advantage in selling the story of a dance, sports men and women have an advantage of fitness, stamina and discipline, some celebrities bring a massive fan base with them, others have stage school experience or dance training whilst some have absolutely no ability or experience at all. If you want to watch a fair and scrupulous dance competition, Strictly isn’t for you and never will be!

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