James Bulger - New Revelations

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Just watching this - wondered if anyone else was interested in discussing it

I suppose that 25 years have passed so there’s no real need to keep things closed.

@JediJim

“I do find it strange that the adults in these boys lives weren’t held to account. The parents, school, social services. Why wasn’t any blame put on these too?”

Parents. Yes absolutely.
But schools? You expect responsibility of this awful event, or these boys terrible actions to lay in the hands of school. Really?

Parents are supposed to parent. Parents are supposed to teach their children right from wrong, they’re supposed to mould their children into wel rounded human beings and help them make the right choices. I think absolutely that they should be held accountable for what their children do- when they are minors.

Schools are supposed to educate. They are now excepted to do so much - toilet train, teach, social worker, provide breakfast, provide opportunities if parents haven’t, the list is endless..... AND you expect them to be in some way responsible for the actions of these boys?

Tobymory, you’re right regarding the school. It seems they did try to get social services involved, regarding one of the boys behaviour at school and his absence at school. I’m sure thousands of other children attended that school and haven’t gone on to murder.
I seem to recall both boys families had new identities soon after the case. I suppose they have to live with that too. They are hardly ever going to boast about who their sons is are they?We don’t really know about the boys siblings either.
Denise Fergus said herself in the other documentary that the only people she blames are the boys themselves, poor woman.

you can be tried as an adult in scotland from the age of 8. At least you could, dunno if they raised it. They want to lower England and wales' age to 8 too, but don't think they ever have

It's the other way round, Scotland is planning to raise the age of responsibility to 12.

In some countries it is 14. It is ludicrous that it is so low in the UK. I agree that there were 3 child victims that day.

I think the reason we have kep the criminal age of responsibility at 10 here is actually due to the Bulger case.
I agree that they shouldn’t have gone to an adult Court but I do think they were right to be incarcerated.
If they weren’t, what was the alternative? The case was so shocking that I think the legal system wasn’t really geared up for something like this.

I know bad kids. Kids with shitty lives who most people would look at and write off

So not bad children then, children who have had a difficult life?

Its just too sad. It was so close to a police station aswell

@shearwater that’s because they are monsters.

@lsfhsqp if he was a normal person he wouldn’t be able to live a normal life at all. I couldn’t If i had done what he did. I hope what he did is a massive burden on him and he hates himself. It should be eating him alive.

If Baby P had survived his awful abuse and committed a heinous crime when older, would people be saying “he was just born evil”?

@CounsellorTroi definitely something inside of them that isn’t right. Whether they were born evil or not what they did was evil.