The Cry

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Cant see another thread - anyone watching?

maybe he lets slip that he also gave noah meds while jo was asleep and she realises he has been letting her think it was her. looks as though they return to scotland before she kills him.

but i agree, why the serene look at the flattened house - some significance?

Wasn't that just to show she didn't kniw he was dead until that point? Interesting to think Ali died in Scotland. I wonder how much time passed between the baby dying and the trial.

"Al buried him on a beach"

No, we haven't seen that. It's just what he says and he's a liar.

That episode was so hard to watch despite having read the book.

I haven't read the book - is it worth reading despite having watched the series?

I think Jo finding out where Noah actually ended up is probably the catalyst for her killing him. Maybe they find his remains somewhere, not the beach?

Do I get thread points for guessing Jo was on trial for killing Alastair first?

I found this episode hard to watch as well, I don't believe the baby is buried under a tree on a beach.

Will be very surprised if Jo turns out to be the manipulator, she loved her baby and had bonded with him. She just struggled because he cried a lot!

I think the baby's death was a complete accident, but what happened afterwards reveals the real characters of Joanna and Alistair.

I think Noah is buried under the house foundations alistair parked up at. Seemed significant.

Yes I'll put my medicine and the baby's medicine in identical bottles without labelling them. What's the worst that can happen?!!!

I think Ali knew way before Jo that Noah was dead. It gave him time to plan what he was going to do. He purposely pulled over to make the call knowing that Jo would then "discover" dead Noah.

I think Jo is calm in court because she feels like she has got justice for Noah and is at peace with herself. She killed Ali when she realised the extent of his manipulation/deceit and that he knew long before her that Noah was dead. Maybe Noah could have been saved if Ali had sought immediate medical attention but it was all about him and how it reflects on him.

Why would the medication go into new plastic bottles anyway? Surely the size of the bottle would be OK for a plane?

I reckon Alistair was responsible for Noah’s death and that Jo kills Alastair when he accidentally reveals this.

It was probably Alistair giving Noah more medicine on the plane. Alistair was very quick to suggest that Jo had given the baby an overdose.

And he seems to react very coldly doesn’t he? He’s switching straight onto “better not let this mess up my custody battle”

Regarding the medicine: in the book it’s better explained that Joanna has packed two large bottles of medicine (over 100ml) which is picked up at airport security. She’s sent back and goes to Boots to buy small clear plastic bottles to decant the meds into, but doesn’t label them

I thought that you could take larger than 100ml bottles of medicine, provided you’ve got a prescription for it?

Although I suppose she could have forgotten to bring the prescription along with her.

Right before she goes to get the coffees in episode 1 he says ‘shit’ and when she asks him what’s wrong he makes that snotty comment about jet lag not being to do with lack of sleep. I wonder if he realises then he’s given the wrong meds?

I def think Al gave baby extra meds while she was asleep on the plane. Also that he knew baby was dead before the car stopped as he seemed to delay/stall, looking at his phone to check time or read something. He waited for her to find Noah dead.

Jo also.says she's been betrayed. I wonder if she's talking about finding out Noah hasn't been buried on the beach.

It took me great willpower not to check out the ending of The Cry online after last weeks episode. Im so glad I didn't as last nights episode was a revelation.
At what point exactly did Joanna realise that it wasn't her that was responsible for the baby's death ?

Yes, the discussion they had about whether Noah's burial place was beautiful was significant I think - it was important to Jo to know that. If they find Noah's body on a building site that may tip her over into killing Al.

My impression was that the 'authorities' haven't found out what really happened to Noah - Jo said to the psychologist/psychiatrist 'he betrayed me, that's all you need to know''. So the public may think that Al killed Noah deliberately, Jo found out and killed him.

Left field theory:

• the betrayal goes back much further, to whe; Alistair first took her to his home and she’s met his wife and daughter.
• she, either deliberately or not, gave the wrong medication to Noah on the plane. We only have her word that when she tried it it was his. She could have planned the identical bottles, for all we know.
• She maybe didn’t expect Noah to die, but, if she could frame Alistair for attempted murder there's no way he'd get his daughter, who, let's face it, Jo would be dumped with.

So, not the mad mother with PND angle, but cold revenge on her husband. Who knows how he's been treating her up to now other than what we've seen. Domestic violence? Affairs?

Just because she says she began to see the real him in Australia doesn't mean to say it’s the truth.

Was very interesting episode.

Very impressed with the poster who noted the trail was in Scotland and hypothesised it was for Jo killing Al.

I think Jo is calm in court because she feels like she has got justice for Noah
‘Justice for Noah’ was what the crowd were calling out when you see her led to the car prior to her trial at the beginning so maybe they were supporting her rather than angry at her as you initially think.

The friend in Scotland is a puzzle. Jo confesses to her that she killed Noah (although it may only be that she thinks she did). Would that friend keep her secret while the whole world is looking for a missing child?

I think she is calm in court because she has already lost everything.