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Well, I keep reading 'SS' as social services, which gives an entirely different spin on the whole show!

I am flummoxed as to why Nadia and her husband were being manipulated into setting of a bomb in a train by the secret service

To create fear of yet more Islamic terrorists? Also I think Tom is the police leak who gave the movements and is setting up Budd. Probably was in cahoots with Kim. Reporting to Budd’s boss who reports to the SS .

I also think Julia’s dead. If she were alive she’d never be able to return to politics.

Also Julia and Dave I think had a deeper relationship I reckon. She didn’t seem that surprised by him strangling her - she said sometabout what his training has made him and he needs help. She didn’t say what the fuck, get away from me etc etc.

The strangling is not at all unusual in veterans with PTSD. I’ve read more than one article about it happening in real life between married couples where the man is ex-military and I wouldn’t be surprised if Vicky and David split up originally because of something similar. I can imagine he’d become very disturbed by the thought that she might be in physical danger from him, or scared of him, given how he reacted when we saw it happen with Julia.

I would think Julia would have a good idea of why he reacted as he did when she woke him unexpectedly from a sleep where he thought he was alone. She knows he’s ex-military and has done more than one tour.

I still can't believe that the Secret Service or police haven't linked David and the shooter on the roof yet.
They were in Afghanistan together, meet up in London at that meeting where many witnesses could link them.
David knew him but has never told the authorities. Each time he's shown the photograph his silence is deafening.
How will David explain that away ?

She can’t be alive still. If you go round reporting famous people as being dead and then it turns out they aren’t, the news is a bit bollocks, isn’t it. I know it mostly is anyway, but...

I think the SS have linked David and shooter but they are biding their time. They need to use him more before they reveal that.

Considering how suspicious David is of everyone, he seems particularly laid back about his estranged wife's new partner. Most people would want to know about who is hanging around with their kids, and most people haven't been shot at and nearly blown up by a possible mole

I think the SS have linked David and shooter but they are biding their time. They need to use him more before they reveal that

Agree

Maybe they’ll use it as leverage to get the tablet

Right - Chanel is an organised crime link and was being used to infiltrate the HS's office and find out what was going on. She'd either done what she'd needed to and got herself sacked or was genuinely incompetent. The talk about not moving Vicky and the kids from the safe house was because obviously Longcross and his cronies are going to rock up there next week.

Presumably the compromat is being used by other parties to put pressure on the PM. Julia was used - showing her the compromat and knowing that she would likely act on it - and killed to increase that pressure on the PM.

If you go round reporting famous people as being dead and then it turns out they aren’t, the news is a bit bollocks, isn’t it.

Well, it was actually done with Arkady Babchenko.

I think it's been a set-up from the very beginning. Bomb on train because David was there to defuse the situation. Police under orders to kill her in case she said anything. Her appropriate adult is SS, making sure she doesn’t.

Veteran's group being controlled by SS, which is why it took police so long to find records of shooter. SS keeping tight control of them. Think he could have shot her but chose not to at the last minute. He realised how fucked up things were, and chose suicide by police.

Not a deep theory here but could I just ask; is compromat a real word? I couldn't work out what they were saying. Certainly my spell check doesn't like it.

Kompromat is from Russian I think. It certainly sounds Russian. I first heard it in relation to Trump's "golden shower" dossier.

I thought it was a bastardised form of 'Compromising Material', tbh.

Yes - kompromat in Russian komprometiruyushchy material and in English compromising material, so hurrah, it works in either language.

Why did Budd want to buy an unmarked rifle? Who do you think he wants to take out?
So basically next week he is going to go “ rogue”
I suspect Louise will have his back and feed him some off the record intel.
I think the politicians did just want to humiliate Julia, so the’re not the murderers.
So there’s 3 groups left: Secret Servuce (Longcross et al) ; Chanel’s organised crime buddies and the war veterans ( scar face shooter crowd.)

I can’t figure out if the top policewomen, CD-R Sampson ( Gina McKee) and Budd’s direct boss are goodies or baddies

What's confusing me most is SlashDaves Before and after the bomb hair. Did the blast mess up his follicles?

Isn't SlashDave's new 'bed-head' style do designed to cover up the gaping wound in the side of his head from when he tried to kill himself but was allowed to stay on active duty and participate in an investigation in which he is also a suspect?

No, he’s just not got his fab blow dry, now he’s not shagging the HS.

Interesting how he told Vicky he had an affair; bearing in mind they are separated. He probably still feels married to her. Definitely a safe house showdown next week, with him saving his wife and kids.

Thanks to those who answered my question about Komoromat. I will try and use the word in daily life now!
I'm not sure about the top police people either. They did say Julia 'had to be stopped'.
And, yes they've taken Dave off active duty for his own health, but surely they must know the secret service will be after him and they took his gun away.

The police ‘she has to be stopped’ was in response to Julia going against precedence and protocol in putting the SS in control of things, wasn’t it?

We still don’t know why the ARVs were so slow getting to the shooting.

I am suspicious about the way Haddock and her boss appear to be ‘playing’ SlashDave. One minute they are trying to get him to back off and take leave, the next Haddock is spying on him through the blinds, calling to say ‘Budd just entered the building ‘ before taking him to the top office and giving him free reign.

On the subject of plot holes - the little smarm bucket who gave a voluntary statement about the briefcase said he was a senior civil servant then went on to say he was involved in the politics of what was going on. Civil servants don't have political allegiance - the civil service is independent and they do all the work in the background for whoever is in charge. DP was complaining about that inaccuracy last night. Yes, he's a civil servant.

He took his badge back at the end. Was he supposed to?

wowfudge yes, I picked up on that too. He said he had done it to prevent her from starting a previously damaging leadership contest. He said that the Chief Whip (Julia's ex) told him they needed to embarrass Julia - it was "all about the politics". He says "we're politicians, we're not murderers". But if he's actually part of the civil service he's also not a politician! I assumed that Tahir and Smarmy were aides, i.e. part of the HS' political team. Silly mistake to make.

I think Tom is definitely in on it. He could have leaked Julia's movements, I think he was at the hotel when Longcross visited and denied seeing anything to Dave (unless I've made that up??), he managed not to see Tamir hovering in the corridor before the bomb went off, he didn't stick up for Dave in the aftermath, and he dobbed Dave in to his boss to get him pulled off duty.

Though my other theory which conflicts a bit is that SS planted the bomb (perhaps with Tom's help), and the pressure sensor was designed to go off after the speech when everyone had left and there were cleaners etc on the stage. But Tamir's appearance was unexpected and he set the bomb off too early. This is why Kim started running the moment she saw him. She knew about the bomb and tried to stop him walking further.

SS could be setting the bombs, Julia perhaps using the heightened threat for her advantage but not realising it's not really terrorists.

Not 100% convinced she's definitely dead ...