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BODYGUARD CONTINUED BBC1

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Defrack · 15/09/2018 11:01

New thread. Let's conspiracy theory chat away Grin

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GColdtimer · 20/09/2018 20:43

I am have got to get up really early Monday for a flight but am going to the US so won't get chance to watch. I have to watch it Sunday don't I?

MrsLucas · 20/09/2018 21:20

Maybe because they stopped flicking through the service records at the point they spotted the shooter? Bet someone else will make the connection though...

Sorry to be a slow coach...but just to recap, JM mentions going to the deathstar before being dropped at Chequers, presumably to confront the PM about the dodgy dossier from Longcross. So she thinks there is some serious personal risk to her in doing this? Who from? Rogue element within SS, or organised crime, (or has PM got a v nasty temper)?

The Police think she is dangerous and must be stopped? Presumably because they think she is up to something seriously unlawful (unconstitutional)? Blackmailing a DS to do potentially unlawful surveillance seems an odd response. (Or is the organised crime connection to a senior police officer and/or PM?).

Maybe the twist is that the Police, and Longcross are both right? Perhaps PM and JM are both serious bad uns, for unconnected reasons?

And, yes, are the organised crime duo only pretending to be? The man with Range Rover just needs a bag marked 'swag' on the back seat? Has he got a couple of undercover gigs? or is this just an accident of a tight production budget

Did JM embark on the affair with Slash just to feel a bit safer?

tribpot · 20/09/2018 21:46

twofalls, if it's anything like the finale of the penultimate series of Line of Duty ( no spoilers ) you may be too hyped up to sleep straight away once it's over. I would install the iPlayer app on a device (phone, Tablet) and then download the episode so can you watch it on the plane.

VanGoghsDog · 20/09/2018 22:09

JM didn't request him as her PPO, she didn't know it was him til later when she was reading a report that had his name in.

MrsRobot71 · 20/09/2018 22:17

Is it significant that Julia used to be a criminal barrister? Could there be criminals who have a grudge against her/links with her because of that?

On a separate note, does Tom Fenton have some sort of grudge against slash Dave for taking his job as Julia’s PPO?

Yellowsunredroses · 20/09/2018 22:19

Good call Mrs robot!

GColdtimer · 20/09/2018 22:41

Oh good call tribpob. I always forget I can actually download from player, always think I have to stream. But will I be able to stop myself watching and then avoid this thread is the question....

Member · 20/09/2018 23:05

Interview with Jed Mercurio on Newsnight now

ChoccyJules · 20/09/2018 23:45

If as so many viewers think, Keeley is still alive, then do we presume the 'Mum' that Slashdave saw at the hospital was an actor? Which means the ex husband is in on it? I always assumed he was against her, not working with her.

VanGoghsDog · 20/09/2018 23:50

She's not alive.

Graphista · 21/09/2018 01:32

Totally literally, security services deal with threats to national security, so terrorism, certain types of organised crime, they work predominantly as intelligence services (hence MI5)

Police deal with more 'regular' criminals, up to low level uk predominant organised crime. Civilian offenders rather than state enemies.

There is often crossover though not least because regular crime is used to raise funds for terrorism and global organised crime syndicates eg drug dealing, prostitution/human trafficking, Jewel smuggling...

Not that surprising they've not yet connected /Dave and scar face Andy as all we know is they both served in Helmand province around the same time. Doesn't necessarily mean they served with the same unit for there to be easily recognisable links. Camp Bastion has up to 12000 troops at any one time, these operate on a rotation I know the army operates on a roughly 6 monthly rotation cycle. And it's not everyone out and new ones in every 6 months, there's variations due up operational requirements elsewhere, personal factors (army will send individuals home for compassionate reasons eg bereavement of a parent, and of course sick & injured soldiers are sent home and these of course are replaced), so it's pretty much a constant flow of personnel. Plus in this case that means cross referencing 10,000's of personnel over who knows what time period? There's around 75,000 full time serving army personnel, plus another 30,000 'part timers' (territorial army). So that's 100,000 personnel records to go through to cross reference.

GCHQ is actually a location but has become shorthand for mi6 as that's where there admin and training is done. Let's just say it's no coincidence it's not too far from Salisbury, and given what's been happening there recently I don't think I need say more 😉. The C supposedly stands for communication, which is kinda ironic given much of the job is about preventing or disrupting communication.

I don't think rogue, I do think possibly patsy.

Puntastic refs on tonight's this week.

LostInShoebiz · 21/09/2018 08:45

Graphista the C doesn’t supposedly stand for Communication, it actually does.

It is also a stand alone organisation and does not provide business support to the SIS nor training except in the sense that officers of one can be seconded to the other.

SIS business support services are based within units with a central office in London and training takes place near Portsmouth and within established units across the service.

BODYGUARD CONTINUED BBC1
Megamum05 · 21/09/2018 10:09

Love chilling on the couch with the kids in bed watching the telly.
Maybe a cheeky glass of wine hehe

GColdtimer · 21/09/2018 10:37

Given JM writes about police corruption at the highest level, what if David-slash-Dave's boss is pulling the strings and is in cahoots with mafia type people. They would have loads to loose if Julia's RIPA proposal went ahead. What if people at the top of the police were also in on it. My money is on Gina McKee and Craddock being dodgy. I think Deepak and Louise will figure it out and be in danger themselves.

(Sorry if this has already been mooted/discussed, only just skim read the thread.)

VanGoghsDog · 21/09/2018 10:54

GCHQ isn't 'actually a location', it's in Cheltenham and is the govt communication head quarters, that's what it stands for. But it has several other locations. I've been to a few that I'm not even allowed to tell you where they are, but the cut over site for if it all falls over, is in Scarborough. That bit isn't secret, it's just not very well known.

So, it's not really a location, it's a govt department.

KnotsInMay · 21/09/2018 10:55

The question remains as to why SlashDave didn’t immediately disclose the identity of ScarfaceAndy, actually lied / obfuscated about what happened on the roof, and has looked fraught every time Andy’s identity has been raised.

I am also wondering why RangeRovet Man and ChanelSam were so indiscreet as to have her get into such a conspicuous Baddy-Car in plain sight of a trained protection officer. If you have been flirting with someone your eyes linger as they leave. They must have known they would be seen.

Could just be a clumsy plot hole in the interests of giving the audience clues though.

VanGoghsDog · 21/09/2018 10:59

The reason he didn't mention that he knew Andy was because he knows him from a group for PTSD survivors, or at very least they are both in said group, and he doesn't want anyone to know he has PTSD.

DarlingNikita · 21/09/2018 12:19

Could just be a clumsy plot hole in the interests of giving the audience clues though.

Yeah, I think this Grin

sofato5miles · 21/09/2018 19:22

SlashDave said to Scarface "back in helumd you said" which implies they were there together?

passwordfailure · 21/09/2018 20:18

Hi everyone - just bingeing BG on iPlayer now. Couple of things I don't understand - who is the curly haired chap who fancies JM? Who is the slimy who offered slash peanuts? Why didn't they check scarface's fingerprints - don't all army recruits have them done? Who had the exploding briefcase? Was it the Asian guy who curly guy was jealous of?

passwordfailure · 21/09/2018 20:20

Aha - slash put the explosives in Mahmouds briefcase when he checked it!?

MrsRobot71 · 21/09/2018 22:52

Passwordfailure:

  1. There were no explosives in the briefcase
  2. The curly haired guy was Julia’s SPAD (special advisor). He had a crush on her and she spurned him.
  3. The peanuts guy was her ex-husband and the chief whip.
  4. It’s not true that fingerprints of all army recruits are kept on record.
  5. Curly hair was using the Asian guy to do a bit of political embarrassing. Don’t think he was jealous of him.
passwordfailure · 21/09/2018 23:21

Thanks Mrsrobots - wheels within wheels for sure. I wish Vicky would get back together with Slash.

passwordfailure · 21/09/2018 23:26

Fancying Slash, never seen the actor before. Bit tired of KH, she's everywhere these days.

sofato5miles · 22/09/2018 04:18

I am utterly limerent about SlashDave but I am concerned he might be a bit shit in bed.

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