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New thread. Let's conspiracy theory chat away

Tipperty - yes! The bomb was designed to go off when Julia walked off stage - behind her not kill her
Tahir set it off accidentally and Kim rushed to stop him doing so as she knew about it
Julia also knew about it - that’s why she was weird with Dave before as she knew he’d be sacked after for letting the bomb go off - but Julia didn’t think she’d be hurt

That theory sounds good. Was worried about Kim running.

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What I can't get over- and I don't know if it's a massive plot hole or a vital clue- is that Slash Dave knew there was a suicide bomber on the train to London. He was looking for him (her) and anything suspicious. He told guard lady he knew about the intelligence on the bomber etc.

However- He still boarded a train to London with his children.

That is the last thing you would do if you knew that there was a very real bomb threat a he did.

So was this a massive plot hole OR was he meant to be there and knew it was safe to take his kids. Was there even a reason why he specifically took his children on that train?

I don't think Slash knew in advance the bomber was on that train, he may have heard there was a plot to blow up a train but not which one. Guess he could have avoided all trains with his kids but he'd just come back from seeing his mum so presumably a long old drive.

He then saw Mr Bomber behaving suspiciously at the station (getting rid of his mobile, I think) and kept an eye on him after he got on the train.

He didn't know initially did he (?) but got it out of the poor terrified guard by telling her he was SS, after suspecting something was going on.

There might have been a general alert to all security staff before he got on I suppose?

Not sure if this Been linked

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Havnt a clue what’s happening

Why did Longcross give Julia the incriminating info if he /they didn’t want her to use it

Good call to whoever said Chanel would be back

I think "Longcross" & cronies were in cahoots with JM over the compromat on the tablet & a plan to expose the PM (or whoever is the subject on there)

They then spat their dummies out when she went solo to try & speak to the PM on her own (with Budd driving) & tried to discredit her but not sur they wanted to kill her.

Do we know that David's ex-wife's new partner is definitely male? I can't remember.
Could it be Chanel?

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I don't think who her new bloke is is important. I did wonder why Longcross told Vicky that SlashDave had been having an affair with Julia. Vicky couldn't have cared less but it made me think that the security services don't know they have split. So who knows about his flat?

Argh - why is it so long until Sunday!

Wow - I thought Longcross told Vicky purely to wind up / frighten SlashDave. To show that they can get to Vicky if they want, despite the safehouse. Longcross just used the affair as an excuse to go and see her.

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Yes - that's certainly possible. I hadn't thought of it like that.

I think McCraddock (/Dave’s boss) was the one sexually assaulted by the PM (or a friend of hers was), so she ordered Tom and Eggytits to put the bomb under the stage to be detonated when Julia walked off stage to boost Julia’s political strength/RIPA18 bill so that Julia could oust the PM.

Craddock not McCraddock!

But /Dave googled the woman who was sexually assaulted and it came up with her photo and where she worked (I think).
Unless it was a fake page created by SS to appear when anyone searched the key words from the kompromat. I just don't know any more!

I'm not sure how deeply Tom is implicated. I wonder if he's just concerned about Dave's behaviour/suicide attempt, as anyone would be. This may be unfair/wrong of me but I don't think he's meant to be all that bright or imaginative as a character.

I too have been thinking about the tagline "what if the person who is supposed to protect you is your biggest threat?" and wonder if it refers to the Home Secretary, whose job it is basically to protect us all.

I slightly suspect Vicky's new partner is involved, otherwise why so many mentions but no actual sightings of him (her?)?

It stretches credulity that they haven't linked Dave to the sniper yet. I guess they're stringing it out for tension, but I just find it unlikely.

Dory, Sam is Chanel's real name IMO –the coffee cup spelling thing was her making an excuse for why the barista shouted 'Sam'. Chanel is the fake name IMO. Although, assuming she'd planned to 'bump into' Dave in there, you'd think she might have been more careful about the name she gave.

My biggest confusion and probably shows my lack of worldly knowledge is the huge gap in my understanding between the security services and the police being 2 totally separate things.

Can anyone explain it to me please

I'm not sure there is that much of a link between Slash and the sniper - we know they met at the group (but were not seen together), we know they were friends of a sort (but maybe just through the group?), we know they both served and did tours of Afghanistan - but were they actually in the same regiment/served together at the same time? Just being an ex soldier isn't that much of a link if not - have we all imagined how well they were supposed to have known each other?

As for the new partner - would s/he be allowed to the safe house? I think not, certainly not at the start, so that leads me to think there is more to the new partner.

If Sam is Chanel's real name (agree she would have been more cautious as she was talking to him but maybe a genuine slip up - though excuse seemed v plausible really, given how shit Starbucks are at that) then she must have been a SS plant in the HO, or how would she get a job using a fake name?

the huge gap in my understanding between the security services and the police being 2 totally separate things.

There's not much to explain, they just are separate.

Police is police, MI5 and MI6 are the security agencies. (known as 'the agencies', and MI6 as the Secret Intelligence Services - NOT the SS, that's American!). All fall under the Home Office. Then there is also the MOD - Ministry of Defence which falls into the mix but is a more independent govt department.
GCHQ comes in there somewhere - another 'agency' I think.

Oh, actually, it looks like MI5 does call itself the Security Service - so SS.

Although it wasn't a Starbucks, it was called No 42. I think it's a real place, in Shoreditch or thereabouts.

Yeah, I knew it wasn't actually Starbucks - but wherever, they all always get your name wrong, it's a running joke.

Thanks @VanGoghsDog

Still don't really understand how mI5 isn't the police as they do policing things