Game of Thrones Season 7 - Episode 1

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SPOILERS ALERT

THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCUSSION OF SEASON 7, EPISODE 1 "DRAGONSTONE"

Come and discuss the eagerly awaited Season 7 opening episode airing July 17th at 2am UK time! Don't read the thread if you want to avoid spoilers from Season 7 but also Seasons 1-6

HBO description of the episode: Jon (Kit Harington) organizes the defense of the North. Cersei (Lena Headey) tries to even the odds. Daenerys (Emilia Clarke) comes home

Please avoid discussing leaks and production details for Seasons 7 and 8 but speculate away on what we have learnt from the new episode and what it might mean for the rest of the Season and the ultimate winner(s) of the Game of Thrones

After the opening sequence, I was a bit underwhelmed by the episode...

Particular bug bears:

• Littlefinger's gurning at Sansa at the ruddy time

• if you were asked to prove that you were someone's relative, wouldn't you refer to something that happened when you were children, not talk about things you have seen in a vision?

• Ed bloody Sheeran. Cameos work best when they are fleeting, and you have to go back to see if that was indeed watchamecallit from that thing. Not when they are sat right next to the main character in camera shot for half the scene

• why were Alys Karstark and Ned Umber in the hall already? That kinda implies that they bent the knee to Jon previously when everyone else declared him king

• how many times can they have Lyanna taking down Lord Glover? She is obviously awesome, but it's getting a bit tired now

• what would have happened if Dragonstone had been full of people? Dany would have been dead before Greyworm could get there. There's a reason armies use reconaissance parties to go on ahead before the head honchos go walking up tiny single file paths and through dark unlit corridors...

Cameos work best when they are fleeting

I agree. Margaret Atwood only appeared for a second and her face was blurred in the Handmaid's Tale, but it was enough.

I'm not an ed Sheeran fan, I assumed my was cause I'm biased!

Placemarking as watching tonight

I thought it was a great episode.

Some great lines from Euron (and Sansa's throwaway comment to Littlefinger).

I'm glad I wasn't eating when they showed Samwell's chore montage.

The scene with Ed Sheeran was awkward, cringy and out of place. It felt like a parody sketch of GoT (the sort of thing they'd show for Comic Relief) but less funny.

If the opening credits are a representation of the inside of the astrolabe, they now have an astrolabe inside an astrolabe. I'd like to think that has a teeny Old Town with astrolabe inside it and so on.

Not bothered about Dragonstone. I've decided that a small boatload went ahead and checked it all out before the main fleet arrived.

I reckon Euron brings Yara or Ellaria as his gift.

Or Tyrion's head...?

I don't know who Ed Sheerness is - I'm guessing he was the one who looked like a pudding and couldn't act?

I was also puzzled about how Meera had pulled Bran so far when it took two burly men to get him into the castle. And why Dany was able to stroll into Dragonstone, unless it's a trap!?

Did Wun Wun die at Hardhome? Is that the undead Wun Wun?

Wun wun died at the battle of the bastards, after breaking down the door to winterfell

Could it be undead Wun Wun anyway? It's only got one eye!

Oh, and did anyone else go "oh come on!" when someone (Ed Sheeran?) asked Arya if she was old enough to drink? This is bloody Westeros. There is no legal drinking age in medieval lands populated by dragons and wights, you idiots.

I also thought the gift for Cersei might be Tyrion - I hope not he's my favourite!

I didn't realise it was jorah so thank you to who spotted that.
I loved the opening part and never guessed it was Arya. Maybe I should rewatch series 6, it's been a while.
Hated the hound seeing things in the flames bit.
I am also a huge (and possibly the only) Sansa fan! I think she is an incredibly strong character. She's just not obviously strong and a fighter like arya, she's a fighter in a different way. She survived an engagement to Joffrey, a marriage to Tyrion (I wonder if that will come up when it comes to an alliance with dany) and a marriage to Ramsey, plus little finger following her around like a lost puppy, and she's still going. Don't undermine her.
Euro was awesome especially the two good hands bit. I immediately thought of tyrions head as the gift. Will have to rewatch this week

I was a little worried when it was the vision in the flames - that we were gonna see some naff video playing in there. Very glad it was imagination only!!

It was a good episode. Were the Ed Sheeran singing soldiers Lannisters? The colours looked right but I couldn't see any lions.
Also, I thought Bran couldn't cross the wall as he was marked by a wight which would allow them to cross. Has he screwed over Westeros?

DH has just went "it's fucking Ed Sheeran! WHY!!!"

Loved it

I love Sansa too. I always thought she was the most realistic character in the book.
She argued with Jon but ultimately she acknowledged he was a good leader and that he was well respected.
I still think they have a weird chemistry- the way she grabbed his arm and his reaction... they definitely don't act like brother and sister. I guess they're cousins not siblings.😉

I don't detect this scheming with Littlefinger that lots of people were talking about at the end of last seasom- if anything she seemed quite disgusted by him.

Good episode I thought. Love the Hound (hadn't remembered the farmer storyline that makes it even sadder).
Euron's an idiot but I love the actor from Borgen so enjoyed his scene.
Dany dull as ever-changing I can't bear her intense constipated face... I feel she has the potential to become Mad Queen like her father though. Which could be fun.

The first scene was rather confusing for a few moments. Obviously Arya is able to change faces, voices and build! I was surprised by the hound seeing visions in the flames but wondered if it is somehow related to being burned as a child ( by his brother the mountain).

I thought it was pretty poor.

The whole Winterfell Jon/Sansa argument was terrible.

I thought the general 'rule' in Westeros was that traitor families that bent the knee were allowed to keep their homes and lands but their children were taken to ward to keep them loyal. It looks like both Jona and Sansa as well as all the other lords present conveniently forgot that.

The dialogue was really poor. The scene in the Riverlands with Arya and the soldiers was shocking. Cersei/Jaime dialogue was flat and unconvincing. Enron was a joke.

The only really stellar performance was Rory McCann's. I'm glad he 'briefly' became the actual gravedigger. I'm glad he was never referred to as the Hound.

His current storyline will never happen in the books, but it seems to have rescued an otherwise dismal episode.

I loved the opening sequence, thought it was a flashback at first, Arya is such a brilliant character. I also loved Sansa cutting Littlefinger down to size "No need to seize the last word, Lord Baelish, I'll assume it was something clever". Just brilliant!

I definitely saw chemistry between Jon and Sansa. I can't work out how I feel about that. They are cousins not siblings but they were raised as siblings. And they believe they are. I suppose they probably barely spent any time together as Sansa was mother's pet and Catelyn hated Jon so they wouldn't have grown up together the way Jon and robb did

I watched The Last Harpy video - he reckons they asked if Arya is old enough to drink to show they think she's a little helpless girl. Not a deafly assassin who may slay them.

Just re-watched. Is there a chance Sansa, who Jon thinks may even admire Cersei, could turn and head for Kingslanding with Littlefinger's persuasion? If Cersei had the knights of the Vale now that would be an army. Sure she was behind Ned's murder, but is that concept feasible in any shape or form as a twist in the tale?

Deadly assassin even.