Mother of God - it's the final LOD! Watch as Roz Buckells up for the ride-has she managed to Lakewell enough to uncover Big Fella H with no reciprocity?

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Non gender neutral DARLIN'S welcome! and anyone else
Ready for when the previous thread fills up. Obviously I'm incapable of linking it but someone clever will be along...

Well I for one feel vindicated as my Ifield's Arse theory wasn't that far from the truth in the end. He was just a nose picker rather than a bum scratcher.

The women were killed because they were used to blackmail the police who were involved in the vice. Hilton 'committed suicide' in the same place as the social worker in series three but it's all agreed that he was murdered.

I think Hastings shot one of the Balaclava Men because he didn't want him to talk. BUT, I think we haven't seen the last of Lakewell. He knows more than he's letting on.

I'd love to know what hold Hilton had over Maneet.

Love this thread!
My twopence worth is this
Nick Huntley is in deeper than we are aware. I think S5 will reveal more about him but I think it's important that he and Roz are still legally married because you can't give evidence against your spouse.

I KNEW the lake was significant because of the way Nick Huntley kept spelling L-A-K-E-W-E-L-L. More to be revealed there.

Nick Huntley has a social connection from Law School with L-A-K-E-W-E-L-L

And his name begins with H!

Does anyone else think that Hargreaves looks like Mike from Spaced?

So:
Happy bout Roz turning the tables on yet another interrogation (but massively unconvinced that Lakewell could have been persuaded to sit in on it the first place
"please defend me"
"definitely not, it's a huge professional breach that will get me struck off"
"Oh go on, pleeeaaase"
"Ok then"
Very relieved to see Farmer alive and well
Loved Ted making a massive effort to actually remember Jamie's name in a hostage situation and getting as far as "Jimmie" and then being subtly corrected by Steve to "Jamie".
Liked Jodie saving the day and cracking the case. I don't think she was doing it out of pure ambition, I think she had the biggest girl crush of all time (or just a straightforward romantic attachment but probably not that) and looking at TN you can see her point.
Loved the board of everyone going back to season 1. Radio Times did a rundown of them all.
I didn't think the paddle brush was a problem - it may have been a souvenir of happier times. A man like Tom wouldn't throw out a perfectly good ten year old hairbrush just because he'd lost his hair.

Didn't love:
Failure to explain what was going on between TI and Hana.
Why the hell they bothered to attack Steve in the first place made zero sense.

Next series JM has promised some of Ted's back story including something clearing up the issue of what the hell a Catholic is doing in the Masons. It may also deal with his elite sniper skills. So I'm thinking that we will be teased with "is he guilty or isn't he?"

Having watched the last episode of series 3 and all of series 1 in the last week, I think this finale isn't as good as either of those, partly because we don't particularly care about Nick so the brilliant stitch up job Ros does on him isn't as stressful as what Dot does to Steve but second rate LOD is still way better than anything else on TV.

I think there's more from Nick too, for series 6.

He's up to his neck in it money laundering or similar, and L-A-K-E-W-E-L-L knew he's a weak link & likely to fess up to all when under pressure.
L-A-K-E-W-E-L-L & Nick go way back, which is why L-A-K-E-W-E-L-L didn't throw him under a bus with the crims.

I think they may make future series more linked up than stand alone now, as they're guaranteed further series, which wasn't for definite before - hence the numerous loose ends.

I thought she was going to use Lakewell to get her interview discredited, because of his involvement. Not only is he her husband's lawyer, but he was a suspect and actually involved.

There is lots to explain next time... The whole subplot of corruption still needs explaining...

Maneet on BBC breakfast now

I want to know how Roz managed to have the file with all the incriminating evidence against L-a-k-e-w-e-l-l with her when she came in. I thought she got arrested and taken in? I'll have to re watch it later. Also how crap that would have looked if he insisted he couldn't sit in and then she would have had to hand it over to kate/ steve/ted to sort it.

Can I just say here that Jodie really got on my nerves! Thank you, that's better.

Did I miss something? We still don't know who was attacking the women do we?

For as much as it was really fast paced so it was edge of your seat stuff I'm feeling less than satisfied with the ending and the series in general. Well done to the MN detectives who spotted the telephone numbers. That seemed to be the 'big reveal' and turning point of the finale but seems ever so obvious now. I must admit to be expecting more from it all but there's so much leftover for series 5. It's incomprehensible that Hastings is dodgy.

And Marilyn, you evening sounded as exciting as the final episode. Did u have to sit in the dark for those 17mins til they left? Did it add to the ambience of the finale?

I also think Nick is deeper involved than we think. Nothing to do with Ifield's death, but definitely involved with the Balaclava Men.

Also think we'll definitely see both the Huntley's back in some way next series.

Please give a simple synopsis of this series to me.
I missed the first episode as the flipping recorder didn't record it and I didn't see previous series so I feel I am on the back foot since.
Girls were murdered- by whom ?
Why did Roz want to pin it on Michael ?
Why did Roz want to pin Tim's death on her husband ?
Who threw Arnott down the stairs ?
How could he survive that so well?
How could Roz be waltzing around so soon after her arm amputation?
How stupid was JamienotJames in the last scene he was in, surrounded by police officers with guns ?
Maneet ?
Who was Balaclava man that Hastings shot?
Hasn't the chief police guy got the biggest eyes ever ?
Why do so many Mumsnetters fancy Adrian Dunbar ?
We've lots of men like him in Ireland ( doing my bit for Irish tourism ).
Mind you I love his accent.

Who planted the earrings then? And.........
Poor Michael's Nanna got liberated from her nursing home, where she would have been cared for, to go and share a house with Michael, where she'd probably end up caring for him. Not a step up, in my view!

I think Roz is covering for Nick (and others, possibly) and that she chose to take the fall for Ifield's killing. I think the flashback to that night has been saved for the next series when it transpires that she didn't kill him. I'm not sure exactly who did though.

Loved the way she turned the tables on Lakewell and arrested him, sheer genius. The best scenes in LOD are the interrogation scenes, by a mile. She was amazing.

Glad to see Steve hobbling about on crutches. Thought the moments between him and his AC9 ex were quite poignant.

The fact that Hilton 'shot himself' or was found dead at the same spot the social worker was murdered indicates he was also involved in the paedophile ring.

I still think Tommy Hunter is alive and is the elusive 'H'. He is the only person who knows where all the bodies with incriminating DNA are isn't he? that's why Gates took his own life in S1, because they had his DNA on Jackie's body and nobody knew where it was stored. There are more Jackies, IMO. Carly Kirk in S2 was the one that got away.

I predict that next series we will finally see what happened that fateful night with Ifield and also discover Tommy Hunter is alive.

So we know that the Shadowy Gang operate by producing bodies from deep freeze with your DNA all over them. In the past this was done by having the intended victim of the blackmail present when the murder victim was killed (Gates, Laverty). However, they have perhaps figured out that it's easier to plant DNA evidence where you want it to be found - Ros does this on an almost daily basis, apparently. So was the finding of Ifield's DNA at Hana's flat done to set him up for her murder (only she didn't die)? Or was Ifield in on it and using his expertise to assist the Shadowy Gang and that's why he collected Hana's fingerprint, and why he had a handy bag full of forensic samples that he rifled through when he thought Ros was dead?

Shout out for Whole Genome Sequencing - I see that like DNA testing this takes barely seconds to do. And I'm not aware that it's actually used in crime detection? It's meant to be for managing outbreaks etc.

Oh and back on my continuity error with the phone numbers - what if that was deliberate? Very hard for Hilton to say 'no that wasn't my burner phone, I gave her a different number on a similar napkin' and not at least have his career tarnished.

Ithink Roz is covering for Nick (and others, possibly) and that she chose to take the fall for Ifield's killing

I don't think she is. I don't think she would have gone to the lengths she did to frame him for it if she was then going to confess. I think it happened exactly like she said it did. Nick is involved in something but not Ifield's death.

My thoughts:
Roz arrested her own husband - she believes he killed Ifield. She covered up for him by cleaning up and hiding the evidence. She took the blame for the whole thing so one of them could stay with the children.
Ifield was some bad man - he thought he had killed Roz, was going to chop her up, Nick saved her.
Did Roz want to pin the killings of the young women on Michael because she suspected Nick was involved? No evidence to support this. But why else?
The power-behind-everything is Jimmy's brother, the criminal Stephen, who has women killed (maybe disobedient prostitutes etc) and stores them just in case he needs to frame someone.
A balaclava man working for Stephen threw Arnott down the stairs after Hilton alerted them.
He survived well because he has a contract for the next series?
Roz was up and about because she's a warrior woman made of pure steel?
Jamie wanted to be loyal to his leader. As did Jodie. Perhaps there's a lot of hero-worship for leaders from the lower ranks in the police service.
Maneet was just a little one intimidated by a big boss. She's left so that's fine.
Hastings shot a random crim in a balaclava.
Which chief police guy? Hilton? Didn't notice. This fellow has eyes. But he isn't in Line of Duty.
eyes
Couldn't hazard a guess about Adrian Dunbar - takes all sorts, I suppose.

holly, you do indeed have a fine stock of men in Ireland. I try to visit a couple of times a year for the sheer pleasure of observing them.

I think the reason they didn't do a flashback was because it was too gory. All the blood and chopping of the fingers would've been too much. Plus all the evidence that is was Roz was all over the stuff they found in the woods.

H is definitely a police officer - Dot indicated the initial when Kate asked him about the top corrupt cop.

Can I ask why some posters are putting LAKEWELL with hyphens between the letters ?

I don't think Nick is important now at all. He's a red herring.

polly because Nick Huntley's solicitor is Jimmy LAKEWELL. That's L-A-K-E-W-E-L-L

polly Nick insists on spelling out L-A-K-E-W-E-L-L's name for no apparent reason every time he mentions him. So we are following suit.

I also share concerns about what the point of attacking Arnott was. Nick must be in on something. I'm going to be very annoyed if LoD 5 doesn't revisit some of this stuff.