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Carrie, Quinn, Saul and Dar too.

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Hassled · 12/03/2017 21:29

Previous Homeland thread - new thread for the sake of inter-episode tidiness.

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Hassled · 09/04/2017 22:10

Blimey. So much I don't understand. Mostly I still don't understand what Angry TV Man's accent is meant to be.

Yes, I think the "reinforcements" are Woolly Hat's crew on their way to abduct the president, and Quinn will be blamed. What I don't understand is why the garage (?) was primed to explode - how did they know that the FBI would be opening it?

Dar does really love Quinn. Maybe there's scope for a romantic spin-off there featuring lakeside cabins - Brokeback Mountain gone bad.

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Hassled · 09/04/2017 22:11

Or were Woolly Hat's crew there to rile up the crowd?

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RandomDent · 09/04/2017 22:13

There were several accents coming out of Angry TV Man's mouth. Twas most odd.

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Hassled · 09/04/2017 22:13

Also what was it Dar did to Max's shoulder/neck? Is this an attack technique I need to learn?

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ZilphasHatpin · 09/04/2017 22:13

Yes I am now happy to accept that Dar has a heart and not a brick swinging in his chest. He does love Quinn.

ZilphasHatpin · 09/04/2017 22:14

I think it was a pressure point thing he was doing on his neck.

I17neednumbers · 09/04/2017 22:16

Dar will rescue Quinn, I have every confidence. His love for him is one of the constants. Also public opinion brought Quinn back from his deathbed for this series! (I assume - he was definitely on the way out at the end of the last one, but obviously they realised Homeland would never be the same without him.)
So it turns out the ops guys were watching Quinn all along, not Carrie? Or were they - Dar had some involvement in what they were doing?

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Hassled · 09/04/2017 22:18

Oh yes - good point. It was Quinn who was under surveillance all along.

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ZilphasHatpin · 09/04/2017 22:19

I don't understand the bomb in the garage.

If it was set to kill the FBI I can't really see how the men could have predicted the FBI would turn up. They didn't know carrie was going to get in and be attacked by wooly hat and then Quinn kill him. Then again, maybe they knew Quinn and carrie were in the house across the road all along, otherwise what was woolly hat doing hiding in wait for Carrie?

If the bomb was just set to destroy the van/evidence then surely they could have gotten rid of it by removing the decals and having it crushed at a dodgy scrap yard. That would draw much less attention than a bomb in a residential street. Hmm Grin the bomb was definitely going to draw police/FBI attention and there was going to be evidence of the van left behind.

TheSpottedZebra · 09/04/2017 22:24

I don't really get why the bomb was there. Unless they had planned to reuse the van, somehow (for evil, obvs, not for deliveries) but had booby trapped it just in case that plan didn't work.

My bell wonders if Quinn will end up martyring himself next week - as he doesn't really like living like this.

Didn't the PE car hit a protester?
It's a bit rubbish if the black ops guys come in as backup. That's not even in the top 10 homeland deaths. Top obvs being the pacemaker.

ZilphasHatpin · 09/04/2017 22:29

The pacemaker was genius! Oh brody was good at killing baddies. Grin (did I mention that I miss him?) Sad

ZilphasHatpin · 09/04/2017 22:31

That's another thing that this season hasn't had. It has had the shock/sudden deaths/explosions but it hasn't had the tension of previous seasons like the pacemaker storyline where we knew what B had to do but all the tension was in whether he would or not. That doesn't really exist in HL anymore.

HalleLouja · 09/04/2017 22:49

I have really enjoyed this series. I did think Dar couldn't come back from this but think the sock puppets are way out of his control.

Think Quinn won't be back.

Still a bit confused about the bomb and what happened there. The whole reinforcement thing confused me. Did I say I was confused?

Travelledtheworld · 09/04/2017 22:58

*HalleLuoja"

WRT the "reinforcements". Someone has told the PE's team that they need extra security because of the mob outside.
But we all suspect that the reinforcements will turn out to be the Special Ops team who have been sent to assassinate the President Elect. Only Quinn and Carrie know this. Carrie tried to warn the PEs assistant but then was knocked out by the bomb.

Travelledtheworld · 09/04/2017 22:58

I predicted the bomb in the garage. It was obvious, to me Grin

ZilphasHatpin · 09/04/2017 23:00
Summerof85 · 09/04/2017 23:03

I knew someone was in the house when Carrie was snooping about as the house alarm wasn't set. Thanks to PP for saying that the reinforcements were the guys in the house, wasn't sure what that was about. So is the bomb a diversion so that the house guys can get to the PE?

ninjapants · 09/04/2017 23:13

Hi fellow Homeland fans Haven't posted on this thread before but have been following with interest.

I think the Solicitor General is in on it somehow. Carrie was looking for him just before the van exploded but he'd been 'called away' because of the situation with the PE. Bit suspicious that he left just in the nick of time

ZilphasHatpin · 09/04/2017 23:21

Yes I noticed that too ninja. Very suspicious he was absent at that moment.

yumyumpoppycat · 10/04/2017 00:34

I suspected the bomb and also think Carrie was naïve to trust SG, however I am hoping it was good he wasn't there and he can carry on the investigation {naïve}

I am a bit suspicious of the PE's right hand man too, he was very vague during the phone call.

I17neednumbers · 10/04/2017 07:20

But then, if the aim is to frame Quinn for the assassination, why did woolly hat try (quite hard!) to kill him down by the river?

Dead men don't assassinate PEs, so at that point woolly hat should have been trying to keep him very much alive!

Still, can't think of any other reason for the website so it must be that.
I thought solicitor general was a bit shifty - and certainly can't be relied on to cover up for Quinn (though on the other hand perhaps that is a sign that he is non-shifty! Moral values seem to go a bit wonky on Homeland - what with everyone on this thread thinking the brutal interrogator Saul is 'good'! But I would like Quinn to get a happy ending, seeing out his days tending the church barbecue, which won't happen without a cover up.)

Fiderer · 10/04/2017 08:03

I suppose in the world of Big Nasty Sockpuppetry it wouldn't matter if Quinn were dead, he would still be blamed & be all over the media. Body confirmed as his at the assassination site.

I don't get why they kept Sekou's van or at least didn't strip it down.

And if Dar has lost control of - or is not fully in control of - the Big Nasty S, who is? Who gave slimy O'Keefe the idea to set Quinn up? And does he realise it's not just media manipulation but an assassination plan?

So many ???? as ever with Homeland.

RandomDent · 10/04/2017 08:20

I think that Quinn will save PE but die in the process. He's been living on borrowed time the entire series.

I17neednumbers · 10/04/2017 09:13

That will be heartbreaking Random, but I fear you might be right. Dar may redeem himself by saving Peter somehow (hopeful).

Good point Fid - it doesn't really matter provided they can frame him for it! Maybe they kept the Sekou van to link that with Peter as well.

But I don't really see how framing Peter furthers the alt Right's aims - he is an all American hero in a way isn't he, nearly killed in the service of his country, so why discredit him? Lots of other people available to frame who would be more obvious targets.

Frannie is thriving I hope - no news of her this week.

TheSpottedZebra · 10/04/2017 09:43

Yes I think that either Quinn will die saving the PE (or Carrie?), or Dar will die saving Quinn. Dar has gone a bit too much pantomime baddie I think. Certainly a major character will get the chop.

Saul? He still has his escape kit in his snack bag. Is that how not needed, is he not planning to go on the run? The PE is still planning to indict him, or whatever the terminology was. Maybe he'll die.

I don't get soooooo much of this. Why are they framing Quinn? Surely sock puppets could do the job with a dead Quinn? Or maybe him being framed is a new thing, post-Astrid dying and Quinn surviving? Maybe it's to get at Dar with, as we're meant to believe that Dar actually cares about Peter.

Re the Solicitor General k is that something to do with the list of names? Is he a baddie from the list? I still suspect the PE ' S rigjt hand man, and I think that that Bad General will come ask into it. I guess he wants to be the next President, and bomb things a lot.