Carrie, Quinn, Saul and Dar too.

[Hassled]

Previous Homeland thread - new thread for the sake of inter-episode tidiness.

No chardonnay! Don't leave me alone in the Saul Is Evil gang .
How can Carrie and Max Bing afford to live, who pays them any wages?
Was the letter Dar had his list of names?

I'm just exploring the option Coco, I haven't jumped ship yet. Nothing is as it seems in Homeland.

Welshcake Do you remember back then, when there was an American woman who was with a bomber on a roof in a suburban house and she was arrested and Saul was one of those who questioned her and he left his glasses behind and she killed herself with them?

Saul does have a problem keeping prisoners alive.
The other one in Berlin defenestrated himself.

That's the one Zilpha.
I'm still convinced Saul left the glasses so she would kill herself and would not implicate him in some dodgy stuff.

See, a recurring theme there.

I don't know about Saul...

Saul was also involved way back in Season one where an interrogation person type killed them self.

Oooh yes I remember that eiman with the glasses now thanks! But wasn't Saul pretty distraught after that? I seem to remember believing he really didn't want that to happen at the time. But now we are talking about it he does have a bad track record keeping suspects alive doesn't he?

(Still don't believe he's bad though!)

He was really distraught, I don't believe he did that deliberately at all. But I do think he could benefit from some refresher training in witness, umm, retention?

It's probably more likely that Dar killed the prisoners. While making it look like Saul's responsibility.

"Saul does have a problem keeping prisoners alive." made me laugh. There was a razorblade and a prisoner and a failed lie detector test in Season 1 very early on, too. Although clearly the man is next to God in terms of general goodliness.

It's basic CIA training principles.

First, try to keep the prisoner alive so you can ask then questions.
Saul seems to have missed that bit.

I wonder why!

Maybe he was sick that day.

Remember how good Saul was at passing lie detector tests back in season one?

That's because he wasn't telling the truth. Because he is good.

Grr! was telling the truth!

But he's a top spy - of course he'd have to be good at passing lie detector tests so that he could pass/fool the tests from and Baddies.

And he's only shagged 1 confirmed agent - Carrie is def at 2 (Brody and Aliyan). And Otto was a bit dodge too. And Quinn?

Strangely I remembered it as being actual wine glasses Saul left in the room with that woman. I never thought he wanted her to kill herself though - I thought he was doing a kind thing for her because she never saw any sunlight. Did she say that or am I imagining it?

Yes I think he was getting a signed agreement that she would get moved to a cell with a window.

Didn't Carrie tell the psych her relationship with Quinn was intense but she didn't sleep with him?

Or did I get this wrong?

Yes, she said it was 'intense', but 'not like that' or 'not physical' apart from that one time.

Was that not Saul she was talking about? I was half listening.

No, she was explaining how Quinn ended up at her house.

Ahh yes that makes sense!

What I want to know is what do the actual Police do? The ones upstate near the cabin have dealt with (in a few short days) someone attacked with a tyre iron in a motel room, a murder in a cabin and an arson attack and gun robbery in a shop. Do they investigate? Solve Astrid 's murder ( owner of cabin / test bullet in Astrid/ tyre tracks outside etc)? Do they give up and leave it to the CIA as soon as someone gives them a hard stare? What about Astrid's body?

Oh I remember last season (or maybe season before?) where there was a stand off between the police and CIA and Quinn had to go in and claim responsibility for a murder he didn't commit in a house. He and Carrie had been on the scene, just after the murder and there was a crying baby. They had to leave the baby.