Broadchurch series 3

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Will anyone here be watching?!

During the first series, there was lots of speculation about which characters might be related and who looked like who. It's fairly common to speculate. It doesn't reflect on the ability of the actors fgs

The point I was making, in response to a be suggestion that all the black people in the cast must be related because why else would they have cast black characters, is that it could just be they've been cast because as actors they are right for that particular role. The step son happens to be a black actor - doesn't mean the fact that he has black skin has to be relevant to the plot. Fgs

Iam I understand what you are saying, but in television, obviously, they cast people based on their appearance/age/gender. It's not an equality led industry is it? If they held auditions for a part, they are going to look at acting ability among those applicants who fit the 'bill' aren't they, or write into the plot to explain. So the Latimers are a white family with white parents and white children, As is Ellie miller's family. Perhaps the reason for the lad being mixed race is because his absent father is relevant to the story? It could obviously be that he was the best actor for the part and it will never be discussed in the plot- but as the mother gave very detailed description of her previous relationship, and the taxi driver's involvement, I would hazard a guess that it might be relevant.That's all that was being suggested.

Lots and lots of tv shows 'type cast' (is that the word?) and will have actors of a certain race in certain roles. The one that springs to mind is the ice cream girls (which that young detective also starred in)- they would have held auditions for black actresses to play one role, and white for the other. It is central to the plot.

Maybe there's an underground Broadchurch voyeuristic porn-filming thing

I've been thinking this.

NewBear I understand your point too and I agree that in most situations an actor must fit a certain remit - so the young detective must be black or mixed race to be believable as LH's daughter.
But a lot of casting needn't have skin colour as a pre-requisite. Unless something comes out later, I don't believe a black actor was necessary for LH's role; and likewise taxi driver's step son. If we start surmising that all the black characters in this drama must be related it suggests we are assuming that black actors should only be cast when there is an express requirement that their characters must be black. If I was a black actor I'd find that a very depressing thought.

Sapphire

You could probably use some of this too, then, to remove the charming image...

At first I thought it could be the venue owner but then he mentioned the exact spot where Trish was raped - which seemed a bit obvious. If he was the rapist, why would he mention that spot? You'd think he'd keep his mouth shut.

I think it will be someone like that, but who?! In series one it seemed like there were loads of suspects but it wasn't any of them. So far this series every man, except DT, seems to be a suspect.

Do you think it could be a deliberate thing- as in, to remove the idea that rapists are all seedy, dodgy looking, misogynistic etc and actually any normal bloke could be the perpetrator? The same as with Joe Miller in S1 removing the idea that pedaphiles are a certain type that any parent would be able to spot a mile off? Even Ellie didn't spot him!

Dh laughed at me when we were watching last night (missed it Monday!) as every time they speak to anyone I'm like 'oooooh that's him'- quite possibly we haven't even met the real perpetrator yet.

The seedy porn voueur filming ring could work, but I still think they'd have given more hints, or people would have been more cagey about their time at the party.

It's weird that Ellie doesn't know the detective is Lenny Henry's daughter. I know it's not Trumpton but still.

God it never even occurred to me anyone might be related, I just assumed the casting was trying to be realistically proportional.

Mind you, I didn't even realise Annoying Junior Cop was biracial till she turned up on Len's doorstep. And this is the first I'm learning that Taxi Stepson is. I'm a bit oblivious, me. I thought there were only 2 black characters, Catering Bloke and LH, and there's no way they could be related. I look more like LH than CB does!

BTW I really dislike Junior Cop. When Tennant was all THATS ENOUGH OF YOUR NOISE! I've never appreciated him more.

I thought that the person who said they saw Ed Burnett heading to the lake around midnight might have seen the catering man going for his fag break/wander and mistaken him for Ed.

Videos of the local swinging/dogging members maybe? In which case no wonder taxi dss didn't want a gander.

Could it have been an LGBT party? Predominantly gay men. Trish could be lesbian and that's why she doesn't want to say who she slept with that morning. It could explain why Cath said the rape (male/female) was surprising 'at that kind of party'?

Do you think it could be a deliberate thing- as in, to remove the idea that rapists are all seedy, dodgy looking, misogynistic etc and actually any normal bloke could be the perpetrator?

THIS! And, further, that with all the things were seeing - teens perving on porn, sexist double standards, dodgy relationships, entitled blokes, crumbling façades of "better than thou" - shows a churning cesspit of rape culture.

OC and DT are, rightly, lamenting on the fact that they're not able to narrow down the list. Because nearly any man could have done it.

But i love the work they're doing busting rape myths. We have Annoying Young DC actually spouting them out of her mouth, and it doesn't look like she's going to Be Told.

I adored that, even very early on, when DT asked OC: "when even was the last stranger rape around here?" and OC couldn't remember - I was thinking "YEAH! They get that most rapes are perpetrated by an acquaintance or closer!" But then, in stark contrast, when Mark Latimer learns that Beth has a new client, he forbids (tries to, anyway) Beth and Chloë from going out alone, because the only conclusion he can draw is that there's a fresh stranger rape out there, not (more likely) an acquaintance/domestic and/or historical. I was rather pissed off that Beth didn't tear him and his ignorance a new one there on the spot. Letting that bullshit stand sort of undoes the good work they're doing on rape myth busting.

There's creepy taxi wife, who's clearly in an abusive marriage. Anybody else scream at her: "LTB!!!" ?

This series has Mumsnet all over it, dunnit.

Callmeadoctor in the American version of series one the ending was changed from the British version and Tom had done it but Dad covered I think.

So not so far fetched.

I have seen a photo somewhere that suggests Joe Miller is back so did wonder if Tom did indeed do it in the first place, and Dad covered and lied and then when something further has happened he's had to come back and admit what has happened.

I reckon someone put spy tech in that laptop, and has been filming people (Trish?) and that's the porn the boys got hold of.

Why didn't Ellie get the porn off the phone when she confiscated it?

Preemptive I like your analysis

IANAUN And I like your username!

Inspired by this fred, I started watching ep.1 again. Pictures on the fridge. Far too many with Cath's husband. And who is the older chap?

My thinking on Lenny Henry has been that he's fathered at least two children out of wedlock and neither of them are nice people, let's face facts. That doesn't necc mean he's done it (the genetics argument) - I think that would be uncharacteristically sloppy thinking on the part of the writers. But i think we are going to see that sub-plot blow up in a spectacular way. Maybe a bit like the way Filch the Newsagent was uncovered in s.1 - ultimately more sinned against and in a way that makes us challenge our own prejudices.

I like the idea as well that miller's son might have more history with the previous cases as well. It would make sense after S1 and S2 being so linked that series 3 wouldn't stand alone. S1 was peppered with references to this 'unsolved case' that became the plot of S2, so it makes sense that s3 will be part of that too.

Think I might need to go back and watch S1 and S2 again.

Pickle I keep thinking that too. I'm planning to binge watch over the weekend as dh is out on Friday night!

I think it's could be the taxi drivers wife who's the controlling one. The set up with the beds was so odd because he cheated. But her strong convictions won't let him end the marriage so maybe it's the taxi driver who's terrified of her. She's the type to want retribution.

Apropos of nothing, just wanted to say how much I liked the sarcasm from Miller's Dad (Roy Hudd):

"I'm sleeping in my daughter's box room, while she works herself to death: it's the retirement I always dreamed of..."

Interesting point about the idea of gay party, hence mostly men and the Cath comment ( tho again, why would you invite an auntie?).

Could the porn be surreptitously filmed stuff as someone suggested using spycam, and could it be gay sex the boys are watching?
Also like the idea that the dad covered up for the boy.
This thread is addictive as the previous ones