THE ACCUSED ------ CHANNEL 5 now

[RTKangaMummy]

Now

[RTKangaMummy]

Yes very detached but her still believing Kyle is a good guy on one level

[CarTrack]

'All couples fight'

No, they really don't.

I hate how that phrase is used to normalize domestic violence.

[grounddown]

Can I just ask has the bf shaken baby so hard she's got all these issues or did the baby have existing issues? When the grandmother states everything the baby has I was shocked, is that a result of the incident?

[Ellapaella]

I think she has witnesses something so traumatic she has gone through a process of blocking it from her mind so completely, like she is in total denial. If she allows herself to accept the truth she is admitting she has failed her children. She seems quite articulate in many ways yet very very immature. It's very strange.

[RTKangaMummy]

Why doesn't anyone ask her .......

If you don't believe Kyle did it and you didn't then how did it happen?

[ColdFeetinWinter]

I feel sorry for her and also frustrated and angry. I'm finding the legal approach infuriating. I know they are doing their job but it's not really helping her to come to terms or understand her behaviour and responsibility.

She is dressing more and more childlike as the trial approaches

[ColdFeetinWinter]

Ground - brain damage was caused by shaking

[AdoraBell]

I forgot it was on so have missed most of the programme. I did think from the adverts that she appeared detached. Not sure if that's guilt or a defence mechanism.

[Mousybrown]

She is a victim of domestic abuse.....but I think she will be found guilt of failing to protect her child
The poor health has been caused by the ongoing brain damage and it's cumulative effects over time I assume

[RTKangaMummy]

But she had something with her bottom bleeding too didn't it?

[karmassidekick]

Yes it may be cognitive dissonance.
It was 101 they called not 999.
I think she will be found guilty because the texts and the interview prove she knew he was a risk.
I wondered the same about the babies injuries I didn't realise being shaken could cause all that.

[grounddown]

Thanks cold - how does she think these issues happened then if no-one shook her!!

[Afreshstartplease]

Why was the bloody grandma comparing to cot death!

[AnneElliott]

Really odd how she prioritises Kyle over the kids! He admitted it on FB - what more evidence does she need?

[taptonaria27]

She's never offered any explanation for that which is what makes her so much less credible

[Ellapaella]

If she openly accepts he was guilty then she accepts she was guilty of putting her children at risk and would have to plead guilty to the charges against her. Her mothers attitude is also very odd.

[ColdFeetinWinter]

The Huntley comments show that she identifies child killers in just one way (monster) and she therefore thinks this means they are both innocent because they aren't monsters.

Many crimes are committed by people who aren't monsters 99% of the time. I suspect most domestic violence is committed by 99% nice men.

[Starlight2345]

18 years good.

[SoleBizzz]

I do not understand her at all.

[Afreshstartplease]

Well I think she should have got longer then 3 and a half...

[AnneElliott]

Not surprising that she was found guilty when she wouldn't accept that Kyle had caused the injuries.

[KERALA1]

The right result imo

[karmassidekick]

Yes cold that's cognitive dissonance right there. The evidence doesn't match up to her preconceived ideas of good and evil so she's ignoring the evidence.
I hope she gets the help and support she needs when she gets out. Seems her mum will stick by her. Don't know how her mum didn't shake her or talk some sense into her, they were both so flat somehow

[Underthemoonlight]

As a mother to a baby I can fathom having a baby endure so much abuse and stay by him if my dh did that i would of killed the bastard I would be angry. She's extremely cold. She's more bothered about how she looks than proving her innocence.

[ludothedog]

She seems to have missing links in her thought process which again could be a coping strategy to deal with the fact that she cannot accept that her boyfriend hurt her child.

It was clear from those text messages that he had been violent and was scared of what he would do to the baby. She ignored that because it's easier to ignore than to deal with the reality of it.

It's like Cold said, she attributes child abusers as monsters - those deliberately hurting children for kicks - the reality is that most children are hurt by parents who love them but just don't have the parenting ability to cope with the demands of looking after them. She will need a lot of work to help her understand what she did wrong, and still may never be able to accept it.