THE MISSING IS BACK - part 4

[MrsderPunkt]

As part 3 is full.

I'm having a day off due to illness, so am planning a re-watch from the beginning as have got used to the time switches that confused me at first. Quite looking forward to it - will pay extra attention to all things yellow, legs in fireplaces and anything else that you suggest. Probably cover my eyes at the drilla moment again though!

Stone definitely has a more incidious part in the girls abduction. Just doesn't seem plausible that driller could involve him like that only on the basis of what happened in Iraq.

We heard nothing further about the 13 yo Iraqi girl. Brother didn't mention her and Reed only paid blood money for the younger sister to the brother.
I think she was pregnant, either by Drilla or by Stone who had also slept with her (not realising her true age perhaps). Stone made a comment "so many babies". Maybe his wife had repeated miscarriages and they passed the baby off as their own. That would explain the hold Drilla has over him and would be a worse secret for him to protect (as per the comment in the DM article about his terrible secret).
Reed as a dr might have been involved which also explains his complicity/silence.
I think it's weak that the fire/dead girl would be enough for him to keep quiet and be complicit in Drilla's crimes. There would have been umpteen ways to dob in Drilla anonymously.

Placemarking!

Re: driller and Lena/Lena's family.

Maybe driller is Lena's father - her mum being the 13 year old from Iraq. Hence driller still being involved/known to the family, no mention if Lena's father etc.

Which would mean that it is simpler (not ideal, but some artistic licence allowed) to link the DNA of the body in the shed (who I did think was Lena until this week with the discovery of the padlocked basement - why all locked up still when driller has left? Did he leave Lena (alive or dead) down there?) to a known person/easier to switch results.

If driller is Lena's dad, this may explain why she was a few years older/didn't fit the Sophie/Alice pattern of abduction. She may have come to confront driller having found out the truth of what happened in Iraq.

I also wondered about Drilla's relationship with Lena and looked back at the Jorn/Drilla scene at the end of Ep 5.

Drilla said of Lena something along the lines of "She was troubled...her parents thought she had run away". It sounded therefore as though she did have a father around, though we know nothing more about him.

Who has been looking after lucy while gettrick's at work and sophie in the Alps? Is that when Lucy has been going with alice in the basement? Lucy did sound concerned about her 'will she be all right?' Which suggests maybe they have a relationship.

I also sensed hostility to gettrick from sophie! she was delighted to see lucy, then looked quite tense and resigned when she looked over to g. However, in reality if sophie's plan was to do away with gettrick, couldn't she at any time in switzerland have told the police lucy and alice were being kept captive in the house, and escaped from him that way?

Maybe sophie has (understandably) lost all sense of being able to see a way out; or maybe lucy is alice's child and sophie doesn't want to lose her; or sophie herself has a terrible secret (to do with lena no longer being around?) and was scared gettrick would shop her if he was arrested?

I don't thing someone goes from sex with an underage girl in Iraq to abduction of two girls without intervening escalation.

I think Lena was that - abused because he had access to her as friend of the family (the root therefore of her being troubled) and she was abducted at 16 when either/both her mental state deteriorated further or she threatened to go to the police. That would explain why she was so much older when she was taken.

I wonder how Alice and Sophie reacted to the arrival of another girl into their captive world?

Yes, Sophie despite being 'free' in Switzerland , doesn't have the wherewithal to do anything. Gettrick (awful name!) Will have convinced her over the years that she/Lucy/her family would be harmed etc. Same reason so much historical abuse went unreported.

Anyone else oversensitive perhaps feel for the young actress playing Lucy?

I do feel for the actress playing Lucy but I would expect that all her scenes are done at different times to the gruesome bits and I doubt she's allowed to watch it.

I've noting to add. I'm just marking this thread so I can read all your ideas.

Ciutadella when Sophie was pretending to be Alice in 2014 she could have waited until Getterick was at work and phoned the German police or told Gemma but abusers convince their victims that they won't be believed or that something awful will happen if they tell.

hesterton I agree, I think the Brig will turn out to be more of a goodie than we're currently led to believe. I think his secret will be no more than the fact that he's a murderer - which if we didn't know that already, would be pretty huge. One review I've read said there are no more big secrets to be revealed - I think the last episode will be tying up the loose ends and watching Gemma try to get to Alice, to see if she manages it on time!

Yes grumble that's true about 2014 as well . that's what i meant about not being able to see a way out. She's been with him since the age of 11 - you can see how she could be convinced there was no way to escape. Gettrick must have been very confident he could rely on her though - what a risk!

Don't understand why reviews are telling us what to expect/not expect! I'd rather it was a complete blank slate as we go into weds. Maybe it is a bluff!
I think the pp who speculated flowers on grave were a signal from sophie to g may be onto something,

Have we discussed the number 4 and it's possible significance? "Alice" was on 4th floor of hospital and Hertz was photo number 4 in the ID pics.

Also when "Alice" is in hospital- Brig and Eve are talking outside and Brig asks how she is and says sister would kill him if he didn't ask (or something like that). Anyway then Eve asks if he's told her yet. Who is her?

Sorry still banging on about number 4 - Stone, Gettrick, Reed are 3 - is Sam 4?

Her is her sister surely? I assumed she meant had brig told sis about memory problems?

Does Eve know about memory problems at that point?

Stone says to Sam (when Sam was babysitting) '3 lost souls in Iraq' something like that --- well only 2 died in the fire didn't they. Any idea what that may refer to?

I also think Sam is of the right age to have been in Iraq and I do think there's significance in the fact that the 3 missing girls would all have been conceived around August 1991.

We don't know for sure but he is confused when she's brought in for section (re her birth), so he's possible he's been diagnosed with something. For him to be in a care home within two years would tie in with that. Or could it be 'have you told her yet?' Rd Alice return.. ? (No idea why sister would be interested)

I took the 3 souls to be him, Reed and Gettrick.

Also think there's something in the openining of Ep 1.

Alice is smoking- at 11 that is v young - inner turmoil- problems at home?

Also when Gemma's teaching and the quote (Proust was it??) about someone selling their soul to the devil.

Could just be heavily fore shadowing what is to come but could be hinting at something else??

mikado I took it to be about Alice's return and assumed there was some yet to be revealed significance

Well yes, you have me thinking that now..!