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Amanda Knox

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BendydickCuminsnatch · 03/10/2016 19:33

Anyone watched this on Netflix? I'm only on the intro and already she creeps me out! I feel incredibly bad for her if she is innocent but my god she doesn't really do herself any favours - appears to be acting the whole time and completely not genuine! Confused

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Jellybean83 · 10/10/2016 18:09

I'm only around 40mins into this and I'm screaming at the TV, that journo is appalling.... He is practically giddy! Smug, nasty bastard!

And what's with the friend asking Knox for pictures of her boyfriend and telling her 'looking back this will be the best year of your life' after what has just happened... Where the hell is the compassion?!

Although Knox is a bit strange I'm finding myself believing her so far, this is the first time I've watched her on screen talking, my prior knowledge of this case has been only what I've seen in the news and tabloids.

Ok off to breathe and press play again. Blush

papayasareyum · 10/10/2016 18:26

I think she's probably innocent, but why did Sollecito change his story and why did AK blame Patrick?

Jellybean83 · 10/10/2016 18:36

I have no idea about Sollecito but I do buy her explanation that she was alone, scared, sleep deprived and had all these officers telling her she was confused due to that text she sent Patrick...maybe she panicked!

I've seen cases on the CI channel where the police do that to suspects because they are just so eager for a confession, that coupled with the fact the police did genuinely suspect her I think they maybe though that it was justified because in their eyes she was the killer, or one of them at least.

sashh · 10/10/2016 19:02

I have no idea how they ever convicted her. I think the guy who was tried originally was the only killer.

The case has always been that there was more than one person, the bruising and other marks indicate this, even th guy who was convicted says there were other people there.

It's just not realistic to believe that AK was a sexual deviant who persuaded 2 men she barely knew to rape and kill her flat mate. That's not how things work.

But didn't she previously persuade some students to do a 'home invasion' and tell some other students they were going to be raped?

BombadierFritz · 10/10/2016 19:41

I dont know sashh, did she?

SuperFlyHigh · 10/10/2016 21:26

Jealousy as far as I'm aware can easily build up over a week, if Knox had had a few in depth convos with Kercher she would have known roughly her likes and dislikes which were Kercher not liking casual sex or recreational drug use.

Doesn't take a huge leap of faith to believe that Knox got jealous, drunk, stoned and everyone's emotions got whipped up and she got involved in an attack she probably regretted.

Almost every legal person I know who knows the chase (I work with solicitors) by and large feel Knox was guilty and also Sollicieto. I don't think she stabbed Kercher but I do think she held her down etc.

papaya she blamed Patrick I think because he was an easy stool pigeon who "knew" the students from when they went to his bar, he was also black so a race element. I think if she had NOT blamed Patrick I'd be more inclined to believe her but she was more than happy for him to serve time for a crime he had not committed!

TobleroneBoo · 10/10/2016 21:31

Just watched this

Think Nick Pisa is a prick

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 10/10/2016 22:12

Except she wasn't and tried to retract her statement the following day.

BombadierFritz · 10/10/2016 22:56

sashh, do you have a link to those allegations as I didnt find anything

Beebeeeight · 11/10/2016 00:01

I'm just watching it now.

I had no idea the tabloid headlines were so bad!

No wonder people think she's guilty.

I've never believed that. It's just not plausible.

Amandahugandkisses · 11/10/2016 00:14

I always feel that if anything dreadful happened to anyone close to me ( God forbid). If I were filmed / photographed I would appear v weird and strange. I find it v hard to deal with emotions and I will often distract myself or put on a front. I would probably look guilty to the world too.
I don't think she's a murderer but she's certainly doesn't come over as a v compassionate or empathetic person.

sashh · 11/10/2016 06:55

BombadierFritz

Just done a search nad things seem to have disapeared - it is referenced on a message board and on a site that is anti Knox.

www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270361&page=55

www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/Amanda_Knox_Confirms_she_staged_a_breakin

perugiamurderfile.net/viewtopic.php?style=6&f=21&t=173

BombadierFritz · 11/10/2016 08:00

probably made up stuff at the time then? I know there was something about a short story she wrote. most novelists are psychopaths using that as evidence!

Jellybean83 · 11/10/2016 08:31

SuperFlyHigh if all your legal friends think she's guilty how do they explain the lack of AK and RS DNA in Meredith's room, but it was covered in RG? I'm genuinely interested in how that can be explained from a legal persons perspective. Surely the room would be covered in all three of their DNA?

I didn't really find the kissing odd either, that was filmed in the immediate aftermath of finding MK, at that point they might have been in shock but not traumatised, they had only knowing her a short time and at that point they wouldn't have known what a violent death she had suffered. It seemed that they were just reaching out to each other for comfort in response to the horrible situation that was developing in front of them. She didn't sound too carefree on the recordings of her police interview.

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark · 11/10/2016 08:50

General feeling here (10 mins drive from Sollecito's house) is that the reason PL was implicated by her was that because her and RS had walked in on RG - the old "any black man will do" thing. Angry

Italy is massively massively racist. Had PL not had a cast-iron alibi, he'd be in there with RG now.

SouthWestmom · 11/10/2016 08:55

That's interesting. I always thought she knew more but hadn't done it. Mainly as my experience has been of Italy as very racist and I can't imagine an Italian man having any sexual contact or strong relationship in this way with a black man. I know this probably makes me racist towards Italians etc but I just couldn't see that kind of friendship that you would need in order to commit a crime of this magnitude developing between those three in that space of time.

SouthWestmom · 11/10/2016 08:55

That's interesting. I always thought she knew more but hadn't done it. Mainly as my experience has been of Italy as very racist and I can't imagine an Italian man having any sexual contact or strong relationship in this way with a black man. I know this probably makes me racist towards Italians etc but I just couldn't see that kind of friendship that you would need in order to commit a crime of this magnitude developing between those three in that space of time.

PoldarksBreeches · 11/10/2016 09:07

I don't know what game you are referring to up thread but i do understand how abusers groom victims. The idea that Amanda was the instigator of this attack and that rudy and raffaelle were drawn into her desires enough to rape and murder a woman - no. Not after 5 days of knowing each other.
Raffaele wouldn't have had time to develop the kind of relationship that would allow him to be so invested in her that he would rape and murder at her behest.
That's if you accept the premise that Amanda was a sexually deviant psychopath for which I see no evidence.

SuperFlyHigh · 11/10/2016 09:59

Poldarks - I don't think she raped or murdered Kercher, however even in 5 days I think both women judged the other sufficiently for there to be an atmosphere (probably long times talking etc - Knox refers to Kercher as her 'friend') so Knox could be involved in some way in the attack.

Why is Knox so desperate to visit Kercher's grave in the UK if they didn't have a connection/weren't friends??!!

Also Americans on the whole I find very racist (a whole other thread) so Knox blaming Patrick is 'normal'for her and ties in with Italians being racist as ThenLater says.

SuperFlyHigh · 11/10/2016 12:48

jelkybean there are lots of articles with dna of Meredith being found on a knife at solliciete house (M had never been there) etc...

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 11/10/2016 13:11

All the DNA evidence is flaky due to cross contamination issues.
As far as I know the final judge could have said "not proven".
They chose not to. Both exonerated fully.
Bottom line: utterly ridiculous premise which the prosecution could not let go of. No DNA evidence in/on room/MK except Rudy's. Scared non native speaker interrogated without lawyer and not taped but the subjunctive "imagine" the scene questioning led to a dubious "confession". Would not have been passed by CPS in this country.

Jellybean83 · 11/10/2016 13:26

Yes but the DNA of Meredith found on the knife was so minuet, that it couldn't have been the murder weapon, it then transpired that the knife had been analysed in the same lab and at the same time as hundreds of other items from MK and AK house so it was more consistent with contamination due to how small it was.

What about the lack of AK and RS DNA at the murder scene in the room? Surely if she had been held down by AK it would have been all over the place, Amanda's hair, skin etc esp if there was a struggle like the DNA belonging to RG.... But there was none.

SuperFlyHigh · 11/10/2016 13:47

Basically jellybean - the DNA was contaminated and messed up so many times...

the computer records of Sollicieto show a huge gap... most barristers and students who are studying to be barristers have said here they believe AK and RS are guilty.

how do you explain the cut on AK's neck?! she said it was a hickey but it wasn't there that morning.

even another person can't remember who said he thinks 3 people not just 1 - so RG and 2 others? who are the other 2?

As the bar man said "she got off because she's rich and American".

personally i hope RG's appeal succeeds. either way AK will never go back to Italy so she can't be convicted again and RS is too rich to be convicted too.

Disgusting all round and still no justice really for the one person who deserves it, the Kercher family and Meredith.

SuperFlyHigh · 11/10/2016 13:48

The only reason this film comes out now is maybe AK hopes to progress in life - well there are enough flaws in her story to hope that enough people want to disassociate themselves from her.

Or has she not made enough money already?