The Fall is back

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The Fall is back on RTE 1 in Sunday at 9.30
Jamie Dornan survives I think.
Looking forward to it.

Will Gillian Anderson still be wearing those lush silk blouses?
Anyone know where they are from?

I think the way Stella and crew were discussing whether to prosecute her or not, for the storyline it either has to happen or they are found (I hope!) in the nick of time and the lesson is the same - Stella told you so and the police are the bad guys and the trial is a farce...

There are far too many plotholes in it for me to care about them. (Why is Spector getting more attractive when nearly dying? Who ever had a nurse to themselves? Are there really only like 5 hospital beds in the whole of Belfast? Couldn't they afford proper sound? The tedious death tunnel storyline, meh.)

But my problem is the new actors. It was good to see Swedish Wallander in Belfast (the forensic psych), or will they transport Spector to Ystad, the murder capital of the BBC4 world? Stella look out. No one can withstand Wallander's charm.
The solicitor woman (who the subtitles called Louise, but the IMDB called Wallace) sent me round the bend, as I could not remember where I saw her. Of course she was the policewoman in Humans, where Colin Morgan starred as well.
The police ombudswoman wore literally the same dress as in her previous role as James Nesbitt's lover in The Secret. I am all confused.
John Lynch and his extended family is in everything we watch.

I quite like the whole memory loss thing, it gives it an interesting twist. So ridiculous having him alone with the nurse though - police officer DH says no way would that happen (they also put his handcuffs on wrong!). Sally-Anne killing herself and the kids would be horrible but would also make sense. I mean, how on earth could anyone cope in her situation?

You mean Ruth Bradley TheNorthRemembers?

Don't recall her in Humans, but she was in Love/Hate, though I'm not sure if that was broadcast in the U.K. or not. Mind you I'm awful with recognising actor and generally only cop Ruth Bradly when DH is watching with me (he's got a thing for her!!) and he didn't watch Humans.

I think there was a tiny smirky look to him at the end.

If he is faking I wonder why he chose 2006? Is that signifcant...

The suspense is great!

The nurse who is on duty permanently in a deserted ITU with no other staff around ever is bizarre. In a real hospital the nurses would be discussing his crimes in the staff room and canteen and be reluctant to let any young brunette nurses alone with him unwatched. He'd also have been moved to a normal ward by now with a completely different set of nurses. They are in and out of ITU very rapidly. If he's at the intellectual chat stage about death he should be out of there. I'm surprised there isn't a police officer in the room with him as well as surely he's under police custody as a charged serial killer.

If Olivia dies I won't be sorry, I find Sally Ann too angelically mumsy as well. The wee boy can swim to safety.

If Olivia dies I will be devastated - because Stella's words to Spector will be ringing in my ears "when she finds out what you've done, it'll kill her."

I'm finding this series fascinating, but I think I could watch Stella painting a wall, and still find it fascinating. She'd do it with such style

Sally Ann is on fairly minor charge of perverting the course of justice or whatever, so I think she would be left to her own devices, but I agree Spector would probably have a police guard in hospital. And yes, of course he's lying about the memory loss.

Just watched on Catch up. Might give up on it soon, it's getting ridiculous.

Virtually the whole current story arch seems to depend on nothing following what I imagine would be proper procedure - the nurse's behaviour (plus never going home etc), they know he likes a type and she is that type, where has Katie been living and if they are looking for her (arrest warrant and assaulting people n'all) why were they not paying particular attention to the crowds around the court where she'd likely turn up, ABOVE ALL WHY is Sally Ann being given no support? Where are the social workers, why is the head teacher allowed to go "I dunno, just take them home"? Surely there would be a huge focus on the family from both a "what do they know" and a welfare point of view. Meanwhile, while everything chugs along apparently procedure-free, procedural points are being debated between the bigwigs as to how he got shot and now whether he can stand trial - can you get off if you can't remember even if the evidence is so overwhelming?

So it seems like the plot = ignore (or don't have) sensible procedures + police & lawyers debate to nth degree stupid procedures. Cue lots of shouting at telly chez Eddie.

Finding Stella completely one dimensional now as well. Glacial or glacially horny isn't the most engaging combination.

Shame. It used to be good.

And the whole police guaed popping up in random locations business plus Rose seeing and hearing him etc - again, would never happen but obviously needed as a plot device

Just had a thought - when Spector got up and stretched his arms, was that inspired by Lou from Lou and Andy Little Britain?

And Stella is so not doing it for me this series. Even her previously swishy hair is flat, yellow and sort of hard.

DH says there would be two police officers in his room 24 hours a day (so if one goes to the loo there's still someone there). It's very silly. And I'm hoping whatever is going on with that nurse turns out to be more interesting than her just turning into another Katie. Maybe he'll think she's on his side but actually she isn't? The reference to prayer doesn't necessarily mean forgiveness it could also mean a very strict sense of right and wrong.
And I like little Olivia. She's very important in terms of exposing Spector's hypocrisy - girls are revered by him but the second they become adults he hates them.

It seems this series is a complete focus on the psychology of the characters rather than any attempt to be realistic in terms of procedures as it's easy to pick holes in the police/hospital stuff!

Do we think Spector is going to end up dead at the end of this series?!

Charley I agree re Stella's hair.
It was nicer in the previous series.
It's not as 'classy' looking as previously.
Blonde hair is hard to get right.
It can go from classy to brassy so quickly.

Love Ashling Bea in this, I didn't realise she did 'straight' roles.

But yes I could argue that the reason he was been kept in ITU would normally be that it was a more controllable environment than a ward, but the amount of people just wandering in and out. I can't remember the last time I saw an ITU that you didn't need to be buzzed in, and it's so dark all the time. No worries of ITU psychosis there then. . . .

And of course he'd be handcuffed, even when unconscious FFS they make women labour in handcuffs.

And most places would have a male Nurse caring for him, who in the legal dept of the hospital would want to risk a female nurse and in particular one that has the 'look'.

Though DP they say that if Katie cut a fringe and dyed her hair she'd look like a younger version of her, maybe that's how she gets in to see him?

2006, Facebook was in the news so you might have heard of it, but to me I reckon that 2006 was possibly the year he first did a stranger rape or killed (if he has killed others) I reckon that having attacked Rose a few years previously the 'high' from that had worn off and 2006 was when he actively started to plan his crimes.

Will be away and miss it next week.....Really need to know what happens with Sally Anne.

Again DP reckons that she and the little boy will drown but Oliva will somehow be saved.

I think using a nurse who fits the victims is a clever move, it keeps you wondering what is going to happen to her or how Spector is going to react to the 'bait'

It's slowly getting better.

Foxes Love/Hate that is it!!! (I may be the only person who religiously watched it in England.) Thank you so much!!! She was the sister, the only person with brains in the series. In Humans she was a police officer, again the only really capable member of the gang.

I also like the amnesia thing, because otherwise it would get too repetitive. Even though they make it ambiguous if he has amnesia.

I am afraid to say that I either Sally Ann or the kids have to go. Sally Ann has no real future left on the series other than her or Olivia's death would destabilise Spector as they are his last anchors to decency. Also they would be his victims, too. And those men never listen to Stella, and look what happens.

I'd like to point it out that Spector is in the ICU, because we are only about 2-3 days after the shooting to my mind (certainly not long). He just heals ridiculously quickly. Like if you can do push-ups well and really handsome, bullets won't hurt you...

I thought Katie tried to change her appearance, but wearing black and virtually nothing below the waist, she was hardly going to blend in at the hospital. Why was Stella not told about the acid incident? Or did I misread that scene?

Northern Irish Mumsnetters. Are police really this posh in Belfast?! I mean their high-level meetings are in private members' clubs and Stella travels in a chauffeur-driven car everywhere. She lives in a nice hotel as well.

It is so ridiculous, but I still enjoy it.

It wasn't acid was it - just lemon juice. So intended to sting and feel like acid initially to the victim.

Thank you stonecircle