Eden

[AnneEyhtMeyer]

Starts tomorrow - anyone planning to watch?

It looks like a new version of Castaway without the heavy-handed interference of the TV crew and without the cosy huts provided.

Did they eat the goat?

I get that they have to edit but it's what they are editing I feel a bit about. It was pitched as a lets start again with nothing get back to nature type thing and it seems to just be a bunch of people all of similar ages camping in the woods. I got a feeling it's just going to be all about who's bickering with who and who's shagging who in a week or two. Hoping to be proven wrong and learn some real stuff about nature and surviving in the wilderness

Think I'm gonna need a bigger pair of judgey pants for this

I was looking forward to this. Not as good as I thought though. Hook ups already, tiresome.

I like the fact they're not produced - that the producers haven't made the hook ups happen.

Can anyone link to a website which gives all of their names and faces and what their 'real' and 'fantasy' jobs and skills are - it's very confusing trying to link up all the pr/promo stuff in various newspapers with any sort of reality.

If Jeremy Corbyn was a TV producer this seem's like his idea of Big Brother at the moment - a lot of middle class idealism and naivity, weak on reality and practicality.

All of the 'types' are still there yoga girls, macho men, loners, geeks, modest beauties etc I haven't seen an extremely 'camp' man yet though...

I was surprised the vet found it so demandng to cope with so few animals - what was it about 20 sheep, 10 pigs, 10 chickens? Bearing in mind most of the animals won't be sick most of the time, it made me think that's a fairly low number level to get so overwhelmed by.

If he was dealing with lambing in the real world, he would surely have a lot more responsibility?

But I guess it's the responsibilty of lone decision making which is probably most difficult.

I agree buddy about Rob. There is a difference between working in a veterinary practice possibly a city vet that deals with small animals mostly with a team of experienced vets and being out on your own with millions watching your decisions. And at 26 he might if only been qualified a short time.

evrybuddy I couldn't see an official website last night, but I found this link (from the Express website) which lists the participants and their jobs

www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/690581/Eden-Channel-4-Bear-Grylls-The-Island

I'm wondering how the winsome (bleached) blondes are going to cope with their roots growing out, or will they mysteriously remain blonde? I'm assuming they don't have hair dye with them as they only have moss for loo roll.
Still upset about the poor goat and I've messaged Channel 4 on twitter with a complaint about it. The vet guy does seem to care about the animals so I've no idea why the goat was not humanely dispatched, unless they did not expect it to die.
I'm only watching really because I know the area and have met one of the contestants previously. If there's any more animal cruelty I shall stop watching. I don't count the slaughter of the pig in that...that was done as humanely as possible.

Thanks for the link MrsJoey.

Is it not kinda weird that there's no website?

Or is that another aspect of the mocked-up 'back to nature' thing we're supposed to buy into - 'no digital media outside the city, mannnn... luv n' peace!'

So, this kicked off in March, how many leavers do you think they've had already?

I wouldn't fall over in shock if there were only a dozen left or they'd cancelled the whole thing.

But I reckon a minimum two leavers already - Anton, possibly Raphael too.
There's a beefy lad (no idea of his name or role) who seemed to have it in for Anton - a bit of boy jealousy/leadership anxiety - one of the ones who cooked Anton's 'stolen' food - I suspect he's also either gone or is now King.

From my own veterinary experience (all creatures great and small!) Colic was nearly always fatal with critters (except where James was involved of course).

There were always huge animals, cows and horses, under threat of death from colic - so it looks like no progress on that from the 1970s - I can't remember if James Herriot, took the initiative and put the animals down - but that was only 'fictional' TV and generally he was able to save them.

The first link someone provided on this thread had interviews with each participant.

I'm wondering how the winsome (bleached) blondes are going to cope with their roots growing out That crossed my mind too

*by the sounds of it they'll be able to nip to the village

Would they have any money for the shops though?

I'm sure mummy and daddy would facilitate.

A bit disappointed on the whole as it seems to be going the same way all of these survival / castaway type things do. You get a few capable people who get left to do all the work (usually the older ones) and then you get the air heads who see work as optional and drift off to have "me" time or sunbathe whenever they feel like it.

I felt sorry for Anton. He has a great point about the site not being suitable for winter and must have been really frustrated that virtually nobody would listen. Also he was right that being part of a community does not necessarily mean they all live under one roof. The house he was building is meant to house 8. I thought the others were being dicks that they would prioritise a "sweat room" whatever that may be over proper winter accommodation.

So far the best of the bunch seem to be Raphael, Rob, Anton and Steve(the chef). I couldn't help wondering though how long the rations will last if cheffy keeps using the sugar supplies to make caramel topping for the porridge!

I thought that about the posh porridge foot. Quite frivolous considering the situation. Though I'm wondering why they have been given sugar as an essential too.

5Foot5 I agree about Anton, but I just can't get over the way he comes across, and yes the sweat room

After reading the express link. I'm still not convinced the shepherdess is anything more than a label. I mean if she was a sheep farmer with a farming history, then surely that's what they'd call her. Shepherdess sounds like she's taken up a few lessons in one man and his Dog, as a hobby.
So if she's not up to.actually looking after sheep, or going looking for them when they go missing, leaving it up to the Vet, then she's next to useless.

There was a bit were the Vet was telling here something about the sheep, which, I thought was odd, because would have expected a sheep farmer to already know that. Sorry I just really really don't like her.

I Agree ginger I.expected more about how they were managing rather then loads of stuff about sex lives.

I would have expected a shepherd to know how to keep track of a flock of sheep

And failing that (if she is only a fantasy shepherd) - I would have expected a vet to know how a farmer looks after sheep.

I would have expected a recently qualified vet to have a good knowledge of modern and historical farming methods and the pros and cons of fencing in relation to keeping track of a small number of animals on a 600 acre site - but perhaps I expect too much.

Thanks for the Telegraph link to photos - UnSullied.

Looking at the photos - View ALL - www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/07/12/eden-meet-the-contestants-of-channel-4s-wildly-ambitious-reality/
It's striking how many look the same.

Caroline, Jasmine, Katie
Tom, Glenn and Robert the Vet
Oli, Stephen and Robert the student

There must be a verifiable link between appearance and personality traits/types? Same process is used in Big Brother and most reaity TV - scope for a PhD thesis there.

So, two junior doctors and a paramedic - 3 out of 23 - I wonder how many medics applied and were rejected, you get loads of doctors on Masterchef too - looks like health work isn't so fulfilling.

I thought they all looked very similar too, I agree very odd.

I thought 2 docs and a paramedic was a bit much medically really. Presumably they've only allowed reasonably healthy people into the group. A paramedic was a great call, and maybe 1 doctor too. But I see no need for 2 doctors considering their skill, though essential, isn't likely to be in enough demand to create work for more than 1. Then again, rather two doctors than two yoga teachers.

The group did seem rather light on people with a gardening / farming / animal care background.

I was wondering about butchery too. Most people these days won't have a great deal of experience in taking a freshly killed pig (or other animal) and turning it into tasty cuts of meat and sausage. Or do they teach chefs that?

According to his interview, the chef has a particular interest in using the whole animal so I imagine he's the one doing the butchering.

I don't want to go too far off-topic but just off the top of my head, I can recall a paediatrician and at least one other less senior doctor doing well on Masterchef, two doctors and also a paramedic on The Island with Bear Grylls.

Given the relatively small numbers of doctors in society - that seems like a staggering over-representation in reality TV - peculiar at least.

Just remembered a woman on Big Brother - possibly medical student who loved Lady Gaga.

On the gardening/farming side of things, the narrator said they would have Kale ready to eat in about 8 weeks!!! Bet they can't wait.

They must have a lot of supplies in because otherwise we're in 10,000 years BC territory.

Although, my theory is the producers bought a house, dismantled it, put it in crates and transported it to the site - did you see the showerhead the plumber used? With copper piping too!

I don't do Twitter but apparently they are giving it some stick on there too.

I saw a lot of tweets from people liking it. The majority of people I chatted to about it today seemed to think it was good too.