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The Living and The Dead - BBC1

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EttaJ · 18/06/2016 22:29

Just discovered this on iplayer. Only seen two so far and really loving it! Anyone else watching?

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MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 06/08/2016 23:39

Wow. Just caught up on the last two episodes. It does look like there must be another series. His first wife was hardly mentioned. He was putting flowers on her grave in the first episode but that was about it.

How can a physical car that crashed over a hundred years later be pulled out of the bog in Victorian England?

Why wasn't the boy satisfied with his mother, grandmother and great-niece, Lara's mother? Why did he need Lara, who was his great-great-niece? Lara's grandmother would have been his niece. Why didn't he appear to her?

And why was that lovely house abandoned and derelict? It would be listed and restored by now surely? It still had some of it's Victorian interior.

Bloody good though.

Shallishanti · 07/08/2016 13:53

whole thing was brilliant, there definitely needs to be a new series-
I wonder if he did actually kill his first wife? This is not mentioned by his modern descendants, but they are all descended from his second wife. But then, how would the ouija players know that he had killed his wife?

My theory- that ghost is not really Gabriel. Early on we had the evil spirit who spoke through the vicar's daughter and used different voices- didn't the vicar say that spirits could disguise their identity (or something)- and we had the boy who was being urged to kill himself. If it wasn't really Gabriel, that would explain why he wasn't satisfied with his mother and grandmother. UNLESS, they died but didn't stay for him...maybe because they didn't intend to die?

EsmesBees · 09/08/2016 21:39

I found myself worrying for the baby when the wreckage of the car was found still buried. I hope Gabriel was telling the truth about her being safe with her dad.

Clawdy · 09/08/2016 22:12

The baby must have survived, she went on to give birth to Lara's grandmother, who told Lara the story.

Pemba · 10/08/2016 01:01

No, I don't think so Clawdy that was a different baby (the one Charlotte was pregnant with) who went on to become Lara's great-grandmother.

And the little ghost Gabriel did tell Lara that her baby (Lottie?) was with her Daddy, which I assume meant Lara's partner from the present day.

But then, if the baby was saved, how did the car end up buried in mud in 1895?

Pemba · 10/08/2016 01:02

Ooh, just realised Lottie is short for ... Charlotte of course!
Is this significant?

There has to be another series, there just has to!

Clawdy · 10/08/2016 20:55

Pemba of course you are right, and a few posts back I was carefully explaining that to someone, and a few days later I've got mixed up myself!Shock

fanniboz · 13/08/2016 00:22

BBC has decided not to continue TLATD, there won't be a second series Sad said they want to make room for more shows so they can remain varied the bastards

Clawdy · 13/08/2016 10:52

Really? That's so unfair.Sad

EsmesBees · 13/08/2016 10:55

That's surprising. Maybe the ratings were not what they hoped? But if so, it was an odd time of year to show a ghost story- mid summer when lots of people are away.

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TyrionLannistersShadow · 13/08/2016 11:05

I watched the first 5 episodes and loved it but then my stupid sky plus didn't record the final one and as I'm not in the UK I can't access iplayer! Could someone tell me what happened in the last episode please??? I'm so disappointed I missed it.

fanniboz · 13/08/2016 15:22

I'd read there were something like a million viewers, had a growing fan base so I can't understand why the aren't continuing it. Really disappointing! Sad

EPISODE 6 SPOILERS BELOW!:

Tyrian, episode 6 really showed Nathan's decent into madness, searching for his son. We then find out Gabriel has been haunting a woman named Lara who has checked herself into hospital with her baby, and been diagnosed with postpartum psychosis due to seeing Gabriel since she gave birth. She meets with her grandmother who tells her she really is seeing a ghost and the ghost is actually her great great uncle Gabriel. She gives her the Appleby's information, photos, where they lived etc. Lara then takes her little baby and leaves the home after stealing her partner's car keys. She drives to the Appleby's estate and begins investigating. While this is happening in the future, back in the past Nathan is continuing to further lose his mind and is becoming unloving and aggressive towards Charlotte. He drives her away, and she ends up being admired by another man. Nathan ends up seeing Gabriel, who tells him to join him on the other side to take care of him. What follows is Nathan preparing to kill himself to be with his son. Charlotte gets word of his intentions and races back just in time. She holds Nathan while he cries and unknowing to Charlotte, Gabriel is stood in the room the whole time. Nathan accepts his son is gone and that he has to forgive himself. He tells him he's sorry and he loves him for the last time. What then happens is the farm workers pull a car out of the ground, and Lara is there watching it happen. It's her car, she had an accident and was killed but her baby survived. Gabriel tells her she is his new mummy and she can look after him now. She takes his hand and they walk away together. Some time later, Nathan is woken from his sleep by noise downstairs. He begins to walk down the stairs and stops when he sees a group of young men and women in 20s style dress. By the looks of it they were doing a seance. When they see Nathan, the refer to him as "the infamous Nathan Appleby" and ask him, "tell us how your killed your wife" cue a horrified and confused expression from Nathan, and it ended there.

Oh boy that was long but I wanted to be thorough!! Grin Colin Morgan was fantastic in episode 6, so gutted it won't continue!

TyrionLannistersShadow · 13/08/2016 18:28

Thanks fanniboz you're a star! That episode sounds really good, I'm even more annoyed with sky now for not recording it!

CurrerBell · 13/08/2016 19:19

That's really disappointing - TLATD was so original and I don't understand the argument about making way for more variety... Can we change their minds somehow?!

If not, I am going to be bothered about that ending forever!

Fiderer · 13/08/2016 20:25

Think Esmesbees is right, autumn would have been a better time to show it.

Would have liked a second series. It was well crafted and had a great storyline, quite haunting (literally). Plus the "killing your wife" is now a clumsy ending imo.

woodhill · 13/08/2016 22:00

It's like Home Fires again. Leaving it hanging.

Why can't they make another series fgs.

idrinkandiknowthings · 14/08/2016 00:21

"BBC has decided not to continue TLATD, there won't be a second series sad said they want to make room for more shows so they can remain varied the bastards"

Annoying in the extreme. I doubt it will end there, though. Another channel will pick it up. I hope.

EttaJ · 14/08/2016 00:27

I'd forgotten I even started this thread. I am SO disappointed! Bloody BBC. I know what that really stands for! I was sure they would give it another series, with the end like that. Gutted 😡

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fanniboz · 14/08/2016 04:17

Yes, I was so confident it would have another series too! So disappointed. I've signed the petition Smile the writer Ashley Pharoah has said he hopefully will come up with something to continue the Appleby's story and I bloody hope he does. Was the first series I really enjoyed in a while!

fanniboz · 14/08/2016 04:17

Oh and you're very welcome Tyrion Grin

Pemba · 14/08/2016 08:37

Nooo! How can they leave the viewers hanging after an ending like that, it was obviously intended to have a second series. It's been my favourite show over the last few weeks.

And after plugging this series so heavily and making it a 'boxset' with all episodes available from the start on iPlayer (bad idea actually, as I was watching it as broadcast weekly I had to avoid all threads about it as I knew there would be spoilers - took away some of the fun).

'Making way for more variety', what absolute piffle.
They just don't want to pay for it. Why commission it, then? Hopefully it will be taken up by Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, like Ripper Street was.

Off to sign the petition.

Clawdy · 14/08/2016 12:02

Just signed.

idrinkandiknowthings · 14/08/2016 15:44

Yup, also signed. Bloody BBC. What giant twats Angry