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BBC2 on now! Hillsborough Anybody watching?

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SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 21:34

Nothing was being done.

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exLtEveDallas · 08/05/2016 23:02

This was a shocking and powerful piece of TV history. Those poor people; the dead, the families, the friends.

JFT96 at last.

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SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 23:03

The lad that killed himself makes it 97.

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Hissy · 08/05/2016 23:03

That woman ilive, not able to cuddle her son as he was property of the fucking coroner? Speechless.

I know Liverpool was angry, well I'm angry too now, 27 years later.

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SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 23:07

I wonder how many parents/family members died before justice. I wonder how many marriages broken up, people unable to work and pay their mortgage, friends list because of maybe them believing the lies. So many other consequences for these families too.

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NonnoMum · 08/05/2016 23:11

I remember it taking place.
I remember the press demonising the dead supporters.
A Kafka-esque nightmare.

Ginmakesitallok · 08/05/2016 23:11

Does anyone know if Duckenfield has responded at all?

herethereandeverywhere · 08/05/2016 23:13

I'd watched the youtube version but the one televised tonight had a bit added to the end with the new inquest verdicts and all the people who were interviewed saying a little something about their experiences of hearing the answers to those 14 questions. It was worth going through it again to see the ending this time.

Lots of stuff wasn't even mentioned. The CCTV footage of the pens where the crush happened 'disappeared' on the day of the disaster and was never found - that's been known for the last 27 years. I've also seen reference to a memo from Thatcher to the then Home Secretary disagreeing with his suggestion that the S.Yorkshire chief of police should resign. She effectively didn't want any admission of wrongdoing by the police.

AverysillyoldHector · 08/05/2016 23:16

"Justice delayed is justice denied" Professor Phil Scraton.

Indeed.

Youarenotkiddingme · 08/05/2016 23:16

I was just 8 yo when this happened. I remember seeing bits in the media but was too young to grasp the full concept. Plus it seemed so distant as I'm from the south iyswim?

I've watched some hugs over the past years - tonight's programme floored me. Sad

The families fighting for what's right on the midst of grieve and heartbreak. The 96 will be proud of them.

JFt96 at last. RIP. Know that the world knows the truth now.

Ginmakesitallok · 08/05/2016 23:16

According to guardian link he'd requested police dogs before he requested ambulances...

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SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 23:17

Look at this...scum

BBC2 on now! Hillsborough Anybody watching?
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AverysillyoldHector · 08/05/2016 23:19

If you watch the footage Gin, you can see the line of police and police dog handlers stretched across the pitch. No ambulances or ambulence men/women to be seen.

GinnyMcGinFace · 08/05/2016 23:23

He needs to be prosecuted. And sent to prison. In Liverpoorl.

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SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 23:28

Did Thatcher tell him to lie?

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HelenaDove · 08/05/2016 23:31

Arent there some papers supposed to be being released next year or in 2019

thirty years after the tragedy.

herethereandeverywhere · 08/05/2016 23:33

No Thatcher didn't tell anyone to lie. She disagreed when Douglas Hurd (Home Sec) who suggested the government should agree with the Taylor report findings and request the resignation of Duckenfield's boss (who put Duckenfield in the role just days before the match, despite him having no relevant experience of policing big football games, or Hillsborough).

She watered down the response so they welcomed the reports thoroughness (or some such bland phrase). And that was it.

GinnyMcGinFace · 08/05/2016 23:34

He lied while there were still people lying dead and dying on the pitch!! I don't think Mrs. Thatcher covered herself in glory here but the deceit can't really be laid at her feet: he lied from the outset. Complete and total scum bag.

herethereandeverywhere · 08/05/2016 23:37

It's referred to here, though not in great detail, I'll try to find the source:

BBC article

Arkwright · 08/05/2016 23:39

Brilliantly made documentary. I have watched quite a few documentaries on youtube. I wonder Trevor and Jenni Hicks weren't in it. He was one of the leading forces from day one. They lost both of their daughters Sarah and Vicky.

herethereandeverywhere · 08/05/2016 23:39

It's quoted properly in this article:

huffington post

lovelychops · 08/05/2016 23:59

Incredibly moving programme. Sat watching it in tears.

My DP was there. He hardly talks about it.

How can these lies and betrayals have gone on for so long ? There was corruption at the highest level. The after effects of this tragedy have been catastrophic.
It's got fuck all to do with getting better seats at the football... Educate yourself.

How anyone can buy the Sun, still blame the fans is beyond me.

A city was tarnished.

Those poor families. Getting a slap in the face at every turn. Waiting that long for justice... I can't even begin to imagine.

HooseRice · 09/05/2016 01:18

Watching now and being educated.

Seems to be the ultimate victim blaming story.

I clearly remember the day it happened.

NuggetofPurestGreen · 09/05/2016 16:34

Imagine having to look through the 95 photographs of dead bodies to try and find your own son/daughter/husband etc. Doesn't bear thinking about.

Chaseisace · 09/05/2016 16:55

The part that touched me the most was the man who's father died, (he was also in the pen but survived) he said when the final verdict came out saying the fans did not contribute to the disaster and that the 96 were unlawfully killed that 'it's nice to be exonerated' he has been waiting 27 years to officially hear that he did not contribute to his own fathers death Sad