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BBC2 on now! Hillsborough Anybody watching?

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SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 21:34

Nothing was being done.

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Hepzibar · 08/05/2016 22:24

seaside your comments have no place on this thread. They are insensitive as I guess you already know.

SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 22:25

Decent hardworking families. Treated like they're at fault. All for being football fans.

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Kummerspeck · 08/05/2016 22:25

ASAS I was trying to explain to someone the other day that the view of the authorities in those times was that scousers were troublemakers, drunks, violent, workshy, etc. The city was struggling and run down, there were no jobs and, as a Liverpudlian, I often felt looked down on because of where I came from. My father was made redundant in his late 50s and could never expect to find another job. It breaks my heart to think back on the hardship and attitudes he faced as an unemployed scouser and some of the discriminatory comments made at him. It is hard for young people today to believe the bigotry and abuse which was everyday currency then.

Thatcher and her people hated Liverpool because it didn't roll over and, as is becoming increasingly clear, she used the Police as her enforcers. I cannot begin to express my disgust for that government. Even in the weeks after the disaster, Liverpool was referred to as "the pity city" because of the strength of the grief and anger with no thought as to why because, in those pre-internet days, most people accepted what the authorities said was true

Ginmakesitallok · 08/05/2016 22:26

I'm not the thread police ffs. I just think you're missing the point.

SavoyCabbage · 08/05/2016 22:26

I'm not policing anyone. I was trying to answer your question.

n0ne · 08/05/2016 22:27

I've actually had to turn it off as it was nearly giving me a panic attack (I've never had one before). Absolutely horrific. Those poor, poor people and their families.

SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 22:27

I'm in Birmingham and we are also stereotyped. I knew lots of people back then and everybody was on the families side.

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Bedsheets4knickers · 08/05/2016 22:28

Oh I see , I've had to leave the room a few times watching . I remember my dad going mad at the tele as it all unfolded . Poor people . Should never of happened .

ASAS · 08/05/2016 22:30

Kummer I remember explaining the facts to an American friend, this happened, that happened, the other then inevitably happened. Even without any emotion in my explanation he couldn't fathom what I was saying. It didn't make any sense. Why would anyone, never mind a huge swath of people, do that. I couldn't answer. Why WOULD they? A child named after a Pope. Who would willfully harm him?

Hissy · 08/05/2016 22:32

Northerners in general were much maligned then. Unless you had a standard Southern accent you were all manner of things.

If you supported football too... With the 70s still in memory, you were written off.

ChoccyJules · 08/05/2016 22:34

I was a teenager and have a memory of watching it happening live on TV, was it a live match? We lived 12 miles from Sheffield and I remember my Dad saying something/exclaiming, which made me start watching the screen. Knowing it was close somehow made it feel worse, though I wouldn't of course claim to be personally affected as so many were. It wss our city though, where we shopped, it was written on our letters after our village name, so we did feel connected to the tragedy. Anyway, recently I've wondered if my memory has played tricks and I actually saw it later on the news? But I'm pretty convinced it was live and it has stuck with me, I remember where I was sitting in the room, everything.

AnneEyhtMeyer · 08/05/2016 22:35

It was just a couple of years after Heysel too, so it made it easier for the police to influence public opinion against the Liverpool fans. Their lies were just accepted, which is horrifying.

AnneEyhtMeyer · 08/05/2016 22:38

It wasn't being shown until the disaster started unfolding, Choccy. Grandstand cut to it part way through, as it was being recorded for MOTD.

HelenaDove · 08/05/2016 22:39

Im watching . Not long into the doc someone used the phrase "institutional complacency" Unfortunately this is still occuring in many areas today and i dont believe certain institutions or professions have learned anything from Hillsborough.

The "othering" of working class people/ social housing tenants/ ppl on low incomes still happens to a great extent (you see it on these boards and in the media regularly . look at how the narrative on tax credits has changed in such a short space of time) Society has learned FUCK ALL!

freshprincess · 08/05/2016 22:40

That comment 'not like the Liverpool fans to turn up late'. Unbelievable.

SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 22:43

Speechless.

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Behooven · 08/05/2016 22:47

I couldn't watch it. I'm Rangers through and through, we lost 66 in a crush - although it wasn't down to policing, 'just' a tragedy - I have friends who lost family and they can't watch it either.

ChoccyJules · 08/05/2016 22:47

Thanks, Anne, that explains my memory of that day.
Am not watching it, would need a different headspace than I have tonight (and an available TV), may do so on catch-up.

Ginmakesitallok · 08/05/2016 22:48

(Hope seaside gets it now)

The whole of Liverpool deserves an apology.

Corabell · 08/05/2016 22:50

I believe RTE ( Irish broadcaster) were showing it live whereas grandstand switched to the disaster from the snooker coverage.

SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 22:54
Sad
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SoleBizzz · 08/05/2016 22:55

Altered Police statements.

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BaboonBottom · 08/05/2016 22:58

I'm watching, I have to admit there were points I wanted to turn it over. The descriptions the photos just haunting.

The cover up, I knew it was bad, I'd followed it as an adult (I was a child when it happened), but my god what the hell were they doing. And that man saying "are any Liverpool fans going to turn up late". His investigation should have been pulled there and then

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 08/05/2016 22:58

Yes I'm watching it. To say it's sad would be an understatement. That poor lady wanting to cuddle her son and got told. He was the property of the coroner. How cold and wicked. You couldn't even contemplate her pain, could you.
Their fight for justice and their refusal to give up is/was so inspirational.
It makes me even more proud to be apart
of this City.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 08/05/2016 22:59

Hissy. OMG. What a shock that must have been.