Marcella- Anna Friel has a strange accent and an even stranger top lip

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Just sayin'

I too think it was unnecessary to show those scenes. I suppose their justification is we get to see Marcella's breaking down due to losing her own dd

The problem is this story is about 9 episides long, they had to fill it with something. Imo it would have been so much better as 6 episodes. It would have cut out all the confusing bits hopefully

I actually looked away for the first 5 mins. I couldn't bear to watch it.

I also think if the last woman to die had the ginger man's DNA in her hand, how can the murderer have been anyone else?

But as there are 2 more episodes to fill, it must be someone else.

I think they had to put the killing of the little girl in to show the murderer getting messy and leading the police closer.

Jan though! It's too obvious if it is him. Too much of the programme left to have the killer caught anyways.

He maybe knows who it was.. Trying to stop the real killer? Or maybe he isn't really gay and has been seeing her.

We're going to need somekind of venn diagrams to explain who was going out with who, who was doing what to who and what the heck was going on, when it eventually finishes.

well the fact Jan's DNA was found on the girl's clothes, makes it a bit limited to who was the murderer. I'm sure Jan himself hasn't done it, regardless f how weird he is and what has he done - the way he's denying it, sounds extremely believable. Yes, he's got pent up frustration, but sorry M was a goady f*er towards him, I found that scene where she taunted him in his cell disturbing. She doesn't know for a FACT that he's the killer so taunting him like that was sadistic as she was in position of power. Maybe M is not such a good person after all! She's supposed to be professional and not taking her daughter's death out on everyone. At least until she absolutely knows that someone is a killer. She goaded Cullen too much also - got a fake confession as a result, just wtf!

So back to the DNA - it looks like it's Matthew then who planted the DNA. I get the impression he wants to get rid of Jan as he's in love with Henry obviously! Plus he is VERY coll and calculated compared to anyone else whereas Jan is weak and suffering from hysteria as we've seen - he was always quite a doormat. Interesting the way they portarued him in negative light but actually it's Matthew who is cold and nasty to him. Also remember Matthew was in the car at night in the park - when one of the victims was murdered and we never what he was doing there really. I thought he was hooking up with someone, but who knows now!
The only other character who could plant Jan's DNA was Henry as at least they sometimes socialise together, but I'm sure it's not Henry who killed those people (the only one he could ve killed was Grace theoretically but now looks extremely unlikely). Henry is hard to read but he's not the strongest character and seems too gentle physically speaking. whereas Matthew comes across as strong and cool-headed. Though why would he become a killer, absolutely no clue so far.

I wonder who took the photos of Jason and the contract guy - the lodger? and it was stupid to meet up in such an exposed open space! Agree that Jason looked ridiculous in that tight red poloneck! And why the heck is he telling anyone to stay away from M after having an affair, the prick!

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Thank you RosieSW - I've been trying to follow the various links but gave up , you've made it so much clearer. Soon there won't be anyone left, like some sort of elaborate Agatha Christie.

It seems as if Marcella has had another blackout, as she couldn't remember Jason collecting her from hospital and arranging a family meal. I thought it strange that her burnt hand needed hospital treatment yet there was no sign of a bandage on it.

Love, I think you're right about Matthew - he's the link all through and he's a twat.

He could easily have planted Jan's hair at the scene & his dna on the girl.
He had access to the computer, he is linked to Grace, he 'works away' a lot etc.

Thanks Rosie, why didn't I think of that?

Showing May in the boot & then dead was horribly gratuitous.

V odd series. No chemistry between Jason & Marcella & he's a nasty git. Still don't know why she let him send the children away to boarding school - they must have been quite young too.

Meanwhile - Yann must be up to no good, he decided not to go to Grace's funeral when he saw the police photographer outside.

Marcella should have asked him to show her the burn which was obviously a scratch. If it was from Beth the babysitter she'd have his DNA under her nail as well, which couldn't have been planted.

Only likeable characters are boss policewoman & beer policeman. Annoyingly I keep watching so I'll understand the Venn diagram this thread puts up when it finishes

Mango, yes the link to the company/Grace adds to it. Matthew may have either planted Jan's DNA or he could have worn his jacket - though if it was a hair they found then the colour of it would say a lot in this case! Obviously they also found the type in their wardrobe - I don't get it why they are not questioning both residents of the flat, i.e. Matthew as well as Jan, either of then or both could be involved!

The only dodgy thing about Jan is the burn - they think it's from burning the car of course, but otoh he does cook a lot. What if Matthew is the killer but Jan is so under his control that he knows it but unwillingly helps him at times (or maybe just this time) - i.e. was Jan told to wait in the car while Matthew was killing and abducting, then Jan was told to burn the car. At Grace's funeral he couldn't face 'another death' possibly because M got him involved. Maybe Jan didn't know the extent of Matthew's crimes and was shocked at seeing all the photos - and then was having panic attack, but still wouldn't grass on Matthew.

So what was the reason of the cab driver knocking out Marcella - would he think she was at fault for his brother dying? Was it her that he saw on the eve of Grace's death? But although M has a hood she hasn't got a 'long black coat with a hood' as he described earlier.

found the tape, not 'type'!

btw also when Jan and Matthew were in the car before the funeral, Jan said he couldn't go through it, but then sounded surprised ('You are going?') when M said he wants to go - he wouldn't be surprised if there was nothing dodgy going on, it wasn't just that Matthew wasn't showing solidarity with him - he's used to the fact that M doesn't do what he(Jan) wants,

Ooh, yes!
Jan has been dragged into it somehow by Matthew - that makes sense.

Especially like you said about being sent over the edge when shown the extent of what Matthew had done (the crime scene photos).

Matthew is the killer, Jan has become an unfortunate accomplice.

I hated the part with poor May. Completely OTT and horrible. DH couldn't watch.

OK, this is a tad leftfield, but could it be someone on the inside? A copper? The forensic chap who just has to say it was Yann to get him dragged in. He'd also know everything about everyone, no? Goodness knows what his motive would be, though.

Or do I need a lie down?

SuckingEggs I've been suspicious of Tim. Not sure what the point of him is other than a bit of eye candy which I'm not complaining about so I wonder if either he's going to foil the whole thing or he is much shadier than he appears!

I think the main murderer is Matthew, I think Jan knows this.

I think Sylvie killed Grace.

I have no idea what Bareck's reason for being in the program is!

Wow. How sad for may and dad will be beside his self

Makes you wonder if someone delib sent him on that job to leave may and so they could kidnap her

But then why do that?

Silly Jason meeting in public. Who is blackmailing him? Assume dodgy lodger

I did think it was yan being the killer but sounds like he is being set up by his boyfriend - who is the computer hacker? Is that right

Sounds like M did cpr on her daughter / but why was it needed?

Why would the mum kill her daughter?