Dickensian

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Anyone else watching? I am really enjoying it, and have either read more Dickens than I realised, or at least the right books.
I had always imagined Little Nell to be a bit younger though.

I have a thought as to who might have killed Marley but not a why.

Ooh , do tell -who ? I wondered if it was a hit man paid by Scrooge.

Ah that's a good one.

I was thinking along the lines of one of the characters, & therefore Compeyson.

Stands Miss Haversham up because he has been arrested.

Although that wouldn't make sense because in GE, wasn't his aim always just to get as much money as possible & never marry?

Sorry, as you were!

I've just come on to this forum for the first time to see if I am the only person struggling with Dickensian, which I really, really wanted to like: but it seems I am! Perhaps I'll try watching it all through again, and see if I can get into it by paying more attention

I've lost interest in it. My personal feeling is that it has gone on too long.

Most posters here are enjoying it. I think it's tremendous. It's a very clever idea.

I hope they don't do anything which is out of line with the original stories. So far there have only been minor infractions (Jip , the Bumbles being married too soon- Nell getting better is potentially major but she's young there's time for a relapse)

I'm still very much enjoying it & do agree that I hope they don't stray too much from their true stories.

No idea who killed Marley though.

i suggested this to dh but he had to be persuaded. i knew he would like it, we watched the first two episodes, well i couldnt keep my eyes open for the end of the second episode and he carried on watching further episodes.
well he will have to rewatch them when we watch together.

It is a good idea, but yes-10hrs?

To solve a murder?

Compeyson is a psychopath!

Yes, what an evil bastard he is. I'm really enjoying the series though and Mrs Gamp and Mrs Bumble provide a bit of light relief at least. Wegg is particularly disgusting isn't he?

The length is one of the (many) great things about it IMO! It gives time to get into the characters, just like the massive sprawling books.

I so want Amelia to get the better of Compeyson, but she almost certainly won't.

My personal plot prediction is that Fagin will murder Nancy (in order to shut her up about things she knows about him) and frame Bill for it - giving a whole new twist to the Oliver story!

I don't like the scenes with Bumble or Wegg either. Full of innuendo and not really adding to the plot.

So sad about Honoria. Frances and Arthur perhaps should get together as the spiteful scheming siblings.

I'm afraid it won't end happily for Amelia either if they stick with the books. The actor who plays Compeyson received lots of hate mail after the previous episode, he tweeted.

They will stick to leading up to the books, the Bumbles moving out of London, Honoria marrying Leicester (has she had her night of passion with the Captain yet?), Nancy giving up prostitution, Amelia being left at the alter by (the murderer) Compyson, Tiny Tim getting worse etc

Anyone have any sympathy for Frances?

I do!

I suppose she feels she gave up her chances to look after her ungrateful father & sister.

Of course it's not Frances's fault that Honoria spends money & her father lets her even though there is none.

But I suppose from Frances's pov, she's worried & her father & Honoria just make no alteration to their way of living & tell herto cheerup!

She still didn't have to destroy the letter informing Hawdon's promotion.

Frances took on the martyr role herself.

No I agree.

I suppose I just see someone who wants to be loved by her father.

I would have thought that she would be expected to go home & look after the house though, if only for a short while.

I did feel that the implication was that Sir(?) Leicester would have been interested in her had he not been dazzled by Honoria.

Where was she living before?

Did she call off herengagement to look after herfamily?

If so I get why she is so bitter, but then also don't get why whoever it was wouldn't have waited.

He called off the engagement not Frances I thought

Ah, OK.

I thought that she told Sir Leicester otherwise.

Not thatthat had to be true, of course.

Did Hawdon miss outon a promotion because of her destrying the letter & not passing on the message?

Re: why Arthur was disinherited - isn't the series implying that it's because his father found out he's gay? Compeyson seems to think so, and he's using it as another lever over Arthur - all that 'hand me my clean shirt as i get out of the bath' business. Arthur has been casting a few torturedly attracted looks at Compeyson, adding to his general frustration and angst.

Yes, Hawdon didn't get the message from Trooper George (Frances didn't pass it on) and therefore didn't turn up at the barracks when he needed to be there (not quite sure why Frances's role in that hasn't come out, as surely George would have said something later?)

Perhaps it wouldn't occur to them that Frances would lie & they would assume that for whatever reason Hawdon didn't turn up in time?

Was it a time that he should have ideally been back without needing to be reminded?

Lots of things going on here.

Poor Arthur. I feel so sorry for him. He knows he has made a terrible mistake. His initial outrage at being cut out of the will wasn't entirely unreasonable but I get the feeling he realises now that demanding Amelia hand over everything to him was wrong but he can't now stop Compeyson.

I agree it's being posited he was cut out because he's gay.

Frances destroying the letter was unforgiveable. It does seem odd Trooper George would not have mentioned it.

Compeyson is truly evil. It's very well done. Often with an evil character one thinks about the duped characters - don't be so naive. Here there's nothing in the way he behaves with anyone apart from Arthur to give him away.

I agree, Lass. Compeyson is a brilliantly achieved character - totally evil, yet totally believable. Compelling to watch.

So what is the plan between Arthur & Compeyson?

The plan isn't for her to marry Compeyson so that he gets it all, is it?

So to swindle her somehow?

How to get it from her to Arthur?

The plan initially, so far as Arthur was concerned, was to get some of what he is due. Not sure how exactly, possibly just persuasion.

The penny has dropped for Arthur that Compeyson intends to take his sister for everything, none of which will come Arthur's way.

Arthur however is too weak/scared to stop it and even if he told Amelia she wouldn't now believe anything bad about Compeyson.

The synopsis for a future episode is Honoria and Arthur try to persuade Amelia not to rush in to marriage.