Weeeeeeuhhhhwooooo! New Dr Who starts 19 September!

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Hooray! Let's hope that this series is better than the last.
Oh look it's Arya Stark! And more Missy!
And PC's hair is madder than ever!
(And I've found the box of exclamation marks!!!!!)
Let's see

I don't know why they are trying to push the silly rock star schtick? It seems really off on him. I can't believe PC has no input into his character at all, given that MS, a virtual unknown was allowed to insist on the bow tie and much of the character traits of his own Doctor. The whole Doctor Funkenstein fake cool nonsense doesn't suit his character. I enjoyed the beginning, lost interest completely for much of the middle, as did my DS for the first time ever, and then woke up in the last 5 minutes. Not good enough.

boooooring. turned off after 5 mins.

whats with the hoodie? and the rock t-shirt? and thiose pathetic glasses? hes had the screwdriver since the 3rd so whats wrong with that?

the 2nd doc had the recorder, the 8th had the spoons, but the guitars a bit much.

I just prefer the back in time episodes. used to love the zygons but theyre boring now, bring back another monster/alien.

why cant they get the Trickster from the sarah Jane adventures? hes brilliant.

can anyone match Osgood with Sgt Osgood from The Daemons then?

Actually, it was the second doctor who first had the sonic screwdriver, in Fury from the Deep. The fifth doctor lost it when it was destroyed by a Teraleptil in the 17th century.

Apparently Moffat said in a Doctor Who Magazine interview that he intended Osgood to be the daughter of Sgt Osgood, but didn't want to say so definitively "so fans could have their own interpretations"

I like Osgood(s)

And I like the woman who appears to be in charge of things, se reminds me of Captain Janeway. Not always making the best decisions, but still a reassuring presence.

I actually thought last night's episode was an improvement especially the twist with Clara being a Zygon.

I think this series is a bit ridiculous. Hoody, sunglasses, guitar - pah!!! He's turned into some old bloke having a mid-life crisis.
I really enjoyed PC on the first series he was a rude, miserable git but now he seems a bit of a caricature of his former self

Think the writing is really letting him down. PC is better than this.

I think part of my problem is with the two-part format. They need a cliffhanger to maintain interest till the next week but the cliffhangers have felt manufactured rather than real iyswim ie we knew Clara, Missy and the Tardis hadn't been destroyed by the Daleks; we knew the Doctor hadn't been killed and turned into a ghost; GOT girl's episodes were the only ones without a cliffhanger; this week we know Clara won't be left as a Zygon or killed and ditto Kate Stewart.

Now if any of those cliffhangers hadn't turned out as we expected then it would be different (so yeah in theory next week could till surprise us) but since they don't have any jeopardy then the route to why no-one actually dies has to be ultra-interesting and it just isn't . . .

From a theoretical pov, I quite like the underlying themes: the people the Doctor leaves behind; the price of immortality; the toll travelling takes on companions; the hybrids, etc, . . .

Maybe I'm just too old for Doctor Who but I really, really want to love it and I just don't anymore

I am ok with him playing the guitar. It must be both lonely and boring floating about in space so I quite like him having a hobby. I also think the move to sonic glasses is probably significant and the missing screwdriver will end up being used in the wrong hands

Oh I enjoyed Bonnie. And Osgood.

Am I the only one who was desperate for Bonnie to press one of the buttons?

Tonight's episode was GOOD! It felt like proper Who again :) I enjoyed the speech and the puzzle.

It was all a bit slooooow.

I looooooved his speech. Proper old fashioned Who. Apart from a bit too much guitar and glasses I really like the direction they have taken him.

Hated it - was looking for this thread to share my loathing of the stupid sickly speech (he's hidden gallifre so any guilt should be done with) and the hideously poor timing of the plane being shot out of the sky.

Better this week I thought. Much more enjoyable.

The plane being shot is unfortunate but what could they do?

They'd already shown part 1, in which a missile is shot at a plane.

I doubt that anyone who has actually been affected by the real life plane crash considers "what happens on Doctor Who" to be relevant to how they are feeling right now.

Noeuf I think you've missed the point of that speech yes he's hidden gallafry but for hundred years in doctor time he didn't know he had so he still felt the guilt many soldiers feel he still fought in the time war before he hid galafry was responsible for the taking of innocent lives. He said it he nearly made the choice he didn't because of Clara but it doesn't stop him fighting before the events of the 50th anniversary he still has that guilt and he didn't want bonnie or Kate to have the same on their heads!

And the plane being shot would have been filmed 6 months ago is Steven Moffat a mystic who went I know there's a plane going to be shot down in Egypt 6 months in the future I'll just write one in to doctor who!

I thought it was slow too. Would have been better as a one parter. Love Osgood though.

Osgood annoys me, as does Clara. So did Amy Pond and, more than anyone, River Bloody Song.

Tell us how you felt about Rose and Martha RealHuman :o

Naught of course I didn't miss the point. It just came across as overly sentimental and a lot less impact because he has rectified it.
No he's not a mystic, obviously - my point there wasn't that Moffat deliberately referenced real life events () more that it was unfortunate.
Clearly with hindsight it was all written for remembrance time so I suppose the over sentimentality was inevitable.

Rose and Martha did not offend me

I'm going to sound incredibly worthy here for a dw thread, but terrorists want to strike terror and make us change our behaviour as a result. The plane being allegedly shot down was horrific in real life, and in drama. It was a terrible coincidence, but still airing a similar thing on dw doesn't make it worse. Terrorism shouldn't make us change our own lives or our right to freedom of expression. If it does, they would have won.

I think originally I said 'hideously poor timing' as in an observation. I don't need a lecture on how terrorism works.