Chinese School- anyone watching?

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They seem so used to be entertained rather than taught.

I don't fancy teaching a mixed abilty class of 50 kids. I think a lot of teachers would struggle with that!

They don't seem to give the kids time to absorb anything though !

The keen Chinese students would have done exactly what the bright UK Maths group did - gone away and found a way of understanding the material. Good on them! It won't skew the results because all the UK students should be doing the same but sadly many of them are so used to being pandered and shown material in an 'entertaining' way that they can't be bothered to go to any effort.

The kids who are so used to being entertained in lessons are going to get one sharp shock when it comes to their career!

Yes wheres :) not that year though.

Mr Bremner has recently left the school, rumour is there are photos on the web from his "modelling" days :)

The thought of them coming into work

I think they should film a group of English teachers going over to teach a class of Shanghai students and reflect on the differences...

I was thinking that I'd love to teach a class of quiet obedient kids, but then I remembered I had a Y9 class like that last year. They just sat silently and copied what was on the board, it was really unnerving.
I had to spend quite a lot of time training them to actually talk to me, to ask questions and to tell me when they didn't understand what I was saying.
I find it much easier to teach a class if we have a conversation going on.

None of mine are that year either minky think they were quite glad not to be involved! Some of my friend's children were on tonight, a couple of them didn't come across too well!

Sad that Mr B has left, one of mine has had him for maths this year and done so well. And I've never looked for his modelling photos, no never......

Are they planning to do the reverse where the English teachers go to China? That would be interesting.

The behaviour of the kids compared to Educating Yorkshire is the eye opener.

It is quite clear that if the Chinese Teachers think these generally well behaved " very middle class" kids are difficult, they are clue-less .

They would have been eaten alive in Educating Yorkshire...

The Chinese teachers got what they deserved for delivering "BORING" lessons , without any interaction nor any support for struggling students.

Ha ha-cross posts, serenmoon!

Well, if that's a high achieving school, God knows how the Chinese teachers would cope in a bog-standard comp. In my (thankfully) limited experienceof secondary teaching the pupils are waaaay more badly-behaved than that....

I watched this with my year 9 DD and she thought they were incredibly well behaved compared to her school. She couldn't believe they were described as disruptive. And she goes to a well regarded, over subscribed school in South London.

The problem is that the Chinese teachers are used to automatic respect and obedience. If you've not had to manage an unruly class then you won't have the skills to manage an unruly class.

It's like the Chinese students who come to our uni. They don't drop out, they don't piss about and they don't have their fecking mum call up about why they failed their essay.

I wonder if a UK teacher would have issues teaching in China as they wouldn't be delivering the curriculum fast enough? Would they struggle with not having the skills required to deliver the information in the expected way?

I can't seem to find this on iplayer?

It's front page on the iplayer app. Search for Are Our Kids Tough Enough Chinese School

The Chinese teachers got what they deserved for delivering "BORING" lessons , without any interaction nor any support for struggling students.

So the fault lies entirely with the teachers and not at all with the children?
Sorry, but I think that the children are responsible to a degree.

Ah I am looking on sky. Perhaps it hasn't reached the cable channels yet. Thanks.

I seem to be watching with a different perspective to many of you. I went to private school in the UK from 4 to 18 ( 80's and 90's) and the sort of behaviour that the Chinese teachers expect is exactly what they would have got at my school. Whilst we could always ask questions, talking over teachers was unthinkable, being singled out for bad behaviour was mortifying and it would just never have occurred to any of us to play up like that.

I don't have any of experience of how teaching works today, so can't judge right or wrong, or better or worse. I just can't help thinking that there must be a middle ground somewhere. ( In my day, whispered conversations or passing notes, which didn't impact on the rest of the class).

I think setting it up as a competition within the same school is a bit odd. It means we've got the head coming into a class wanting to slate the teachers and willing them to fail to prove "his" school is the best. It seems exceptionally rude to treat visiting teachers this way - he should be kicking Sophie into touch for embarrassing his school!

This school has a reputation locally for being a really good comp. Imagine them dealing with the pupils from Educating Yorkshire.

I think we have a lot to learn from the Chinese system and vice versa. Compulsory fitness exams are a great idea. We are a nation that relaly needs to be fitter and stronger.

The style of teaching reminds me a lot of the old grammar school style of teaching I was subject to back in the day.

I agree with the pp-if there's something to be learned from the "Chinese" way then we should adopt it. I liked the morning exercise particularly.

Thing is, the Chinese should be ahead of us, whatever their teaching methods, if their kids spend nearly double the amount of time in school as ours.

They said that by GCSE age (I think) some of their kids are doing 11 hours of maths a week. Our kids get 4!