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Humans - Tonight (Sun) @ 9pm on Ch 4

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Valsoldknickers · 14/06/2015 10:31

OK, after freaking the bejaysus out of me with the weird trailer / advert I am intrigued and looking forward to giving this programme a viewing.

(I will have to record and watch later as I will be watching Messrs Strange and Norrell.)

Anyone else looking forward to it and hoping it lives up to the hype?

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gingercat12 · 29/07/2015 13:04

Again I feel that it is the age-old question of what makes us human. David Elster may have given them knowledge, but their personality and feelings need maturing via experience and contact with the outside world.

I was just telling my friend about Humans and the questions it raised. She was a bit surprised. I think based on the advert she thought it must be some standard sci-fi with sex thrown in the mix.

Am on holiday and completely obsessed with the Divergent series. [Blush]

SoupDragon · 29/07/2015 13:39

I thought it was interesting that Niska was unable to play dolls with Sophie when the doll she had was being human but could do it when the doll was being a synth

Italiangreyhound · 29/07/2015 14:09

Did anyone notice the interesting thing Mia said to Joe about 'sex' with Joe?

SheHasAWildHeart · 29/07/2015 14:22

Is it that she said "before we were both finished" rather than "before you were finished"?

Italiangreyhound · 29/07/2015 15:48

Yes, exactly SheHasAWildHeart I did not feel she was a willing participant but her comment made me wonder.

Furball · 29/07/2015 16:43

Yes I noticed that too. But at the time she seemed very vacant about the whole thing

Ellle · 29/07/2015 17:59

Interesting. I didn't notice that. But she wasn't an unwilling participant either.

She is the one that explained Joe how to activate the adult mode, and what he needed to do with the code.

Maybe she seemed vacant because that's how synths are? After all, she was acting like a synth, not programmed to love or feel passionate. Or maybe she was a bit (she did mention something about the adult mode enabling her to feel or give the imporession of feeling), but they just omitted to show that.

Italiangreyhound · 29/07/2015 18:10

She was not willing or unwilling, I would say she was compliment - since she was at the time a machine with no will, yet trapped inside was another machine that could feel! The person' (bloody hell need to wash my head out with soap!) that was speaking was actually the sentient being trapped inside, yet she chose to use a term 'we'. Interesting.

OnlyLovers · 29/07/2015 18:10

She said 'before we were finished' not 'both finished'. [pedant]

But yes, it was a slightly odd choice of words.

I'm not completely following it. I still don't understand who the police detective synth is and why she's the way she is, or what she wants.

I don't get what Leo is – a human with a synth brain? But he seems to have human feelings as well. And his accent is BAD. They should have let him just do his own accent, or cast someone else if they didn't want an Irish accent.

I feel really bad for Max. Sad

I'm finding the whole thing a bit underwhelming, actually. Why did George just die? I think they could have done much more with him around his knowledge of and insights into David Elster.

I don't know what the Tom story is for, unless it is going to turn out that he was turned into a synth. If not, then it just seems to have been put there to try to deepen Laura's character and allow for that conversation with Mattie when she told her about him. Which is a bit meh, IMO.

Ellle · 29/07/2015 18:49

Leo is human. When he drowned, he spent too much time under the water and it seems he had considerable brain damage. He was declared dead. But his father took him home so he could keep him in life support (to preserve the rest of his body) until he could find a way to solve the damage to his brain.
As a result, he replaced the damaged parts using the technology he had developed for the synths, and part of his brain is a machine. That doesn't make him a machine, he is still human.

The part of his brain that was replaced by a machine seems to be largely involved in the processes that keep and retrieve memories. Most of his own memories from before the accident were damaged and lost. His father tried to save as much as he could. The rest of his memories after the accident are permanently stored in his "hardware". And he can access them like you would access your photos and videos in a computer.

What he said to Matty about his memories reminded me a lot of the last episode I saw of "Black Mirror" called "The entire history of you". Leo admitted that he doesn't like the fact that he can remember the bad and the good things that happen to him in perfect detail. That the way our memory work is better because we gradually forget the bad things, and embellish the good things.

noblegiraffe · 29/07/2015 18:56

Laura telling Mattie about Tom is what triggered Mia overpowering Anita and asking for help, so they went back to Leo with her. It also allowed Mia to be insightful about Laura fearing she was becoming her mother, and counselling her about her relationship with Joe, showing a deep understanding of emotions you wouldn't expect from a robot.

YeOldeTrout · 29/07/2015 19:05

You're reading too much into the 'We were finished' comment. Anita was a willing participant. To the extent ordinary Synths have any free will. Since Joe couldn't possibly know Mia was there too, is it rape?

TweeBee · 29/07/2015 19:19

I agree OnlyLovers, I was hoping for something much more dramatic about Tom.

Italiangreyhound · 29/07/2015 22:04

OnlyLovers, Yes, She said 'before we were finished' not 'both finished'. [pedant] But yes, it was a slightly odd choice of words. I thought that too, am also a pedant!

Yeoldetroute Read too much onto it, me!

OnlyLovers, the cop synth was made to look like Leo's mum. When he saw her he rejected her, then the dad killed himself just like Leo's mum had and that synth ran away. Then all the other synths left witthout her. So she is pretty screwed up!

OnlyLovers · 30/07/2015 11:00

Thanks, greyhound.

gingercat12 · 30/07/2015 11:25

Ellle That was another haunting Black Mirror episode.

SheHasAWildHeart · 30/07/2015 11:52

I watched the first episode of Black Mirror and so grossed out by it. I thought it raised some important questions but the whole pig thing was too yucky. Is it worth persevering with the others?

noblegiraffe · 30/07/2015 11:57

I only read the plot for the first Black Mirror and have avoided the whole thing just in case, even though I love Charlie Brooker.

BlueKarou · 30/07/2015 12:51

SheHasAWildHeart - yes, definitely worth persevering. The pig one is by far the worst in terms of being really uncomfortable to watch.

gingercat12 · 30/07/2015 13:14

Charlie hates Cameron's guts, that is why the PM episode was so gross.
But the rest of the series was more about how the digital media affects our life in terms of memories, bereavement, justice, etc. It was properly scary, because it made so much sense. Just like Humans.

Italiangreyhound · 30/07/2015 14:06

Can't bring myself to engage with Black Mirror, just too horrible fiction.

Italiangreyhound · 30/07/2015 14:08

Would a series called 'Bears' have done well....

This ends abruptly, possibly someone shut the bear down to charge!

www.amazon.co.uk/My-Friend-Teddy-Freddy-Plush/dp/B00U9O658S

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/08/2015 15:13

Last episode tomorrow :(

MadeMan · 01/08/2015 16:07

You can buy the episodes £2.49 each, or whole series £19 (I think), on iTunes.

Ulysses · 01/08/2015 18:02

I've got the 7 previous episode on Sky+ and am going to spend a good part of tonight and tomorrow binge watching before tomorrow's finale see if I can pick up on any clues on what might happen next. They just announced that there would be a series 2 though - yay! Still think David Elster's 'suicide' is suspicious and Mia did make a pointed look to Leo and said he too would do anything to protect his family (when Tom had to 'fess up about calling the police).