Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Telly addicts

Damian Lewis fans line up for Wolf Hall tonight

990 replies

Travelledtheworld · 21/01/2015 11:29

Wednesday 21st January BBC2 Channel 4

lush costumes.

www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/11358197/Damian-Lewiss-inspiration-for-Wolf-Halls-Henry-VIII-Wills-and-Harry.html

OP posts:
Thread gallery
7
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/02/2015 11:31

The Alhambra must be amazing Envy

Most of what I learnt about Isabella of Spain came from the Norah Lofts book, Crown of Aloes.

LaQueenOf2015 · 03/02/2015 11:35

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BOFster · 03/02/2015 11:36

The Alhambra is truly stunning- you really should visit it if you ever get a chance.

Fiderer · 03/02/2015 12:32

Richard was evidently popular in York. On 23rd August, the day after Bosworth, the city recorded the following:

"... King Richard late mercifully reigning upon us was thrugh grete treason of the ducof Northfolk and many othere that turned ayenst hyme, with many othre lordes and nobilles of this north parties, was pitiously siane and murdred to the grete hevynesse of this citie."

Very brave considering how Henry acted after Bosworth.

CitronVert · 03/02/2015 12:35

I love love love the Plantagenets. Anything from Henry II up to Richard III.

I lose interest at the Tudors as they've always seemed like the flashy incomers who got all the fame and glory, although am loving Wolf Hall.

Fiderer · 03/02/2015 12:53

Heh? All of LaQ's posts have been withdrawn. On all threads.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/02/2015 13:44

It's a conspiracy. She knew too much about the succession

Fiderer · 03/02/2015 13:53

Ah yes.

Seeing as she declared her ardour for RIII here should we not have someone in or near Leicester on hand to ensure there is no skullduggery and heinous plans to smuggle in a second royal body?

KatieScarlettreregged · 03/02/2015 18:23

I think the crazy lady from the Richard documentary caught wind of the encroachment of LeQ on her man.
LeQ is probably in a cellar being tortured as Crazy forces her to be bridesmaid at her imaginary wedding.
Sad

CatieBlanket · 03/02/2015 20:19

I believe she has flounced.

Or, as she would put it: I. Believe. She. Has. Flounced?

MollieCoddler · 03/02/2015 20:30

Just marking my place for tomorrow. I am loving the series.

KatieScarlettreregged · 03/02/2015 20:33

LeQ would nevah Shock
sashay maybe, but flounce?
I think not Grin

CatieBlanket · 03/02/2015 20:45

She has - Scout's honour! She said she's going to re-register but it shouldn't be difficult to find her on a grammar school thread ...

YonicScrewdriver · 04/02/2015 00:08

Flounced??

Philippa Whatsit from the dig was SCARY. Did anyone read the book?

FrankelandFilly · 04/02/2015 07:43

I read that Channel 4 were expecting the dig to be a total failure, hence why they got the bloke from Horrible Histories to do it rather than Sir Tony Grin

KatieScarlettreregged · 04/02/2015 12:28

8hrs 33 mins to go.
I'm more excited about this than Christmas.
I've snacks and everything.

marshmallowpies · 04/02/2015 12:30

Me too! I have (Catholic) PILs arriving tonight but luckily MIL is as much of a history nerd as me (& has read the books too) so hopefully she will be keen to watch it too...otherwise it may be a bit of a stand-off!

Quenelle · 04/02/2015 12:32

I've bought Wine and forbidden DH to eat his dinner during it.

JustCallMeDory · 04/02/2015 13:00

Katie and Quenelle glad it's not just me. I've banned DH from even breathing during it. Although he is allowed to move if it's to top up my Wine

Can someone fill me in on what's going on with LaQueen ? I've just come back to this thread to catch up after a couple of days and it's now unreadable thanks to all the deleted comments. What happened? Was there a great Tudor ruckus?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 04/02/2015 13:02

Beheaded Sad

JeanneDeMontbaston · 04/02/2015 13:41

Hello!

I'm really late to this - I kept seeing the thread pop up but not wanting to post until I'd caught up with it. I am enjoying it, though with some reservations too. I do enjoy Stephen Gardner.

I'm really interested in the Henry VIII discussion.

I don't at all buy that Henry wasn't intelligent. Nor do I think he was terribly interested in women - if you look at the history of his early years, he was married (apparently happily) to Katharine and had a couple of official mistresses, with one acknowledged bastard son. That's really not very much for the time. He only started going through strings of women as he got desperate - and, apart from Anne, I don't think there's much evidence he was all that sexually passionate with them. With Anne, as well, there's the story that when he came to want to get rid of her, he suddenly 'remembered' how she'd known all of these sexy French ways. Which rather suggests he was a bit sexually repressed/sheltered, if anything.

I think trying to figure out whether the treatise was Henry's 'own work' or not is to misunderstand how authorship functions in this period. It's quite normal to do what we'd see as collaboration, plagiarism or similar, and pass it off as your 'own'.

I'm really loving how DL manages to be quite scary - I've not seen a properly scary-seeming Henry in anything for ages. And he surely would have been. BL, possibly because of the Homeland link, does convincingly look as if he could have you killed if he chose and it wouldn't especially bother his conscience.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 04/02/2015 13:49

I don't agree that that's misunderstanding authorship. If you're using the authorship as evidence of intelligence, it's reasonable to ask how much was him and how much More. It doesn't mean you're going 'ooh, Henry was a plagiarist!'

BOFster · 04/02/2015 13:52

Were the Plagiarists after the Plantagenets?

JeanneDeMontbaston · 04/02/2015 13:55

No, you're right, countess, that's fair and I'm being harsh.

My reading of that post was there was an implication it was somehow striking that he'd perhaps not written all of it himself.

IME, if someone exposes a modern book as being ghostwritten, there's a strong implication that the person whose name is on the cover must be too stupid to have written it - it is quite harshly judged, isn't it?

Whereas, what I'm getting at with this is, it would be perfectly normal for an intelligent man to say 'I've done a bit, now you polish it up for me'.

BOF - Grin

BOFster · 04/02/2015 14:39

It's a shame LaQ has had all her posts deleted- I would have been interested to hear her views on plagiarism vs creative collaboration.

Swipe left for the next trending thread