What's the right diet for you, Horizon Special

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What's the right diet for you, Horizon Special

I am watching this, anyone else?

What's the right diet for you, Horizon Special

www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z2csfg8

Biscuits

I'll be your friend.

Thanks red and zing :)

Not seen the program (only one telly, and its not something DH would want to watch), I may catch up on iplayer sometime.
I did the test, but it only seemed to ask about food,when I suspect my tendency to put on weight is down to wine/beer calories. If I cut out alcohol I lose weight, but that isn't something I want to do long term. Did the program cover this?
I've lost quite a bit of weight on 5:2, which I've been doing since around last March. I can cope with 5:2, as I only need to think about dieting 2 days per week, and can eat and drink normally on the other days. I've only got half a stone to go, then I'll need to think about finding a diet that maintains a constant weight. I may try 6:1, or I may stick to the 2 days but go up from 500 cals to 800 or so.

Really interesting programme. I am a feaster. I eat quickly and I carry on long after I am full. I think it's more due to poor habits than low levels of gut hormones or whatever. But the tip for feasters is to eat slowly which I'm going to try. And drinking slowly too, because I guzzle alcohol too.

I will watch. I think fasting is for me. I have been doing low calorie low carb for two weeks and not list an ounce. So bloody demoralising. Did the 5:2 last year and lost 10lb so know it's doable.

Interesting interview I've just seen in passing on BBC world news, which highlights recent research which suggests that moving all from an inactive/sedentary life (no matter what weight they are) will save more lives than if every obese person were to lose weight and into the overweight or average category.
Apparently if we all do the equivalent of 20-25 minutes of brisk walking every day, that will do it. It will also have the effect of bringing most if not all obese people into a healthier category. Interesting, as I'm sure that was what the thinking was before all the emphesis on food and diets.

I haven't seen the last programme, but have seen the second one which did have an emphesis on exercise and moderate activity, although I think 3 or 4 30 minutes of running was mentioned rather than daily walking.

What they said in the last programme was that exercise was the key to weight maintenance but not losing weight. I agree with this where I am concerned. I walk to school and back during term time and haven't put on any weight, although I am overweight and despite having an incurable cake habit . After the school holidays, I find I have put on about half a stone just by being sedentary, even including doing stuff with the kids. If you look at the amount of calories in a cake and then the amount of calories you burn up by doing an hour of exercise, it's minimal. And obviously, people will improve their health through exercise, despite still being overweight, which is what some overweight people have been saying for years!

The programme did say that increasing your activity by a little during the day will burn as many calories as going to the gym. I'm going to try and incorporate some of the things they were talking about into my day.

Cat, did they suggest how i could do 20-25mins walking from a wheelchair?

Disablist interview!!

No, strangely neither disability nor injury (or any other relevant health considerations) were mentioned!

Are there any wheelchair users in this diet show? There really should be people from..all walks of life.

I did spot one woman with a rollator (sp?) and one man on crutches, but didnt see any wheelchair users. Have part three still left to watch though, so maybe one will appear...?

You reading this, bbc execs? We need a weight loss programme for disabled people! Huge amounts of people put weight on after they become disabled, then struggle to lose it.

How differently people interpret what they are told. The second programme showed clearly that exercise has little use in losing weight.
The advice to walk 20 minutes daily was about general fitness, nothing to do with losing weight.

Am virtually equally all 3. Does that mean nothing works!???

I thought catcushion was talking about something else, not this programme?

The second programme showed clearly that exercise has little use in losing weight.

Perhaps I missed this, having watched the programmes in chunks. How did they show this? I saw something about some people exercising less after an exercise day (which I imagine might occur more with new exercisers) and on non exercising days, then the participants being given pedometers so they were more aware of their movement.

moving less after an exercise day

Exercise was actually encouraged because in studies there is a clear link with maintaining weight loss among people who continue to exercise.

As fascicle said the message was that your body will try to restore calorie balance by moving less to compensate for exercise so it is necessary to be aware of that and keep active possibly by sing a pedometer if necessary. To be fair I would rather do an exercise dvd and use a shopping trolley rather than lug a basket round the shops!

Beyond yes, I was talking about something else (which you were asking about)...But your question made the think of the Horizon programmes and the sample of participants so I was then wondering about that too.

Beyond
There are lots of great exercises for some types of wheelchair users.
The point of the exercise story is that getting your cardio system going like the clappers for 20 minutes a day has significant impacts on health.

Depending on the nature of the wheelchair use, getting a pull up bar for a door frame could do the trick ....

facsicle
Exercise will not help much on losing weight. BUT improving cardio function, muscle tone, and other side effects of exercise will extend healthy life span

I have chronic fatigue on my long list of health problems, exercise is pretty much a no go - there is no chance of me getting my hr up for 20mins without spending the next week in bed.
I'm a former dancer, i'm sadly well aware of how good exercise is for you. :(

Anyway, should probably stop whinging about my own circumstances, its a tad off topic

I just watched part three. Well done to all of them, i'd love to know how they got on after the show.

To the people here saying there are all three, maybe you need to do low gi on 5:2 basis, as part of a group

Beyond
Have you tried yoga pranayama? - just that it allows the pulse and heart rates to be altered without moving the body so should have some beneficial effects
a gym friend who has Parkinsons finds it useful

Low GI 5:2 - yup, that is pretty much what lots of us do

Hi as I posted earlier I was one of the 75 that took part, I am a emotional eater, we were chosen after a screening day of 200. after blood tests saliva tests and psychology tests, and the BBC took interviews, the tests were then sent off but with just a no, and we were chosen on our results.

The range of people who took part range from 19 to 70, and some of those who took part do have disability's. we went on three residential s
of five days, and 3 days spread over 3 months and there was a massive amount of filming that took place, also a range of people that had a stone or stones to loose.

I feel privileged to have taken part and we were very lucky that all the experts and the presenters took alot of time away from the cameras to talk to us and explain our diets and the science behind our results.

I knew I was going to be a emotional eater I also have a bit of constant craver in me, for some it has explained a life long battle with there weight and were other diets never worked for them the diet they are now on is working successfully. also I was very lucky they arranged cbt therapy for the emotional eaters which has been fantastic.

They had only 3 hours air time so a lot of it was condensed.

since starting at the end of July I have now lost 3 stone and still going, the majority of people are losing weight and still losing

I will admit that taking part in the pogrom is obversely a massive incentive and the support of all the other people taking part has been amazing we are all still n touch and encourage each other daily, 50 of us are going away in March together.

I hope that you found the program formative and interesting, It really has changed the way I look on diets but at the end of the day you can find the diet that suits you best but you need to want to do it and change your eating habits.

Brilliant Livedtotellthetale! Its good to hear that you got so much help off camera too. You sometimes hear that off camera the story is much more negative. I did enjoy the programme and thought it was incredibly helpful. Especially at the end when one of the experts said that instead of following the latest fad diet, the key is to look at yourself and why you overeat. Obvious but needed to be said.

livedtotell Glad taking part was such a positive experience for you. There was certainly some useful stuff in the programme, although I was disappointed that with expertise including a clinical psychologist and nutrition/population expert Professor Susan Jebb, there was not more emphasis on, and exploration of, the psychology of (over) eating. Although participants were categorised according to eating patterns, and matched to a diet, they were still off the shelf diets, not tailor made for the individual. And like most diets, they were perceived as having restrictions - a number of dieters seemed to go through difficult patches, finding it hard to stick to their allocated diet. It's a real shame the programme didn't take the experiment a step further to include a 'no diet' group, using habit changing strategies suited to the individual.

TalkinPeace
Exercise will not help much on losing weight.
I know this is a commonly held belief, but why would this be the case? If a 30 minute medium intensity workout burns off around 300 calories and a one hour session 600 calories, why won't including such sessions regularly make an impact on weight loss?

The only reasons I can think of for marginalising exercise as a weight loss tool are:

• An assumption that people will eat more to compensate (possible for some but no reason why this has to be the case, especially if there is awareness/avoidance of this potential pitfall)

• Ambitious weight-loss targets whereby a rate of e.g. 2 lbs per week is assumed to be a decent basic result, and anything less is considered disappointing/not significant enough. (If only people focused more on the process of changing habits, and worried less about results. If you achieve the first, the second will follow, however slowly.)

Finally all of the experts seemed to be slim. It would have been interesting to have an insight into their eating and exercising habits, and how far they are able to put their own expertise into practice.

From what I've seen with the "exercise not helping to lose weight" info (was reading up on it recently) it seems to be mainly because either a) people then overeat due to a mix of feeling they need food or rewarding themselves - go to the gym then have a muffin syndrome, or b) people don't move as much for the rest of the day/subsequent days because they're tired/feel they don't need to/whatever. There's also a tendency to overestimate what you have done/calories burned.

For me they can all be combatted if you are aware of them. I'm trying to lose weight just now, and I'm exercising a crapload but I'm using a fitbit and tracking everything I eat.

i had a PT for a while. he used to say when you are in your 20's you can eat anything really if you exercise.
in your 30's it is 70-30
in your 40's it is 60-40, it is very hard to get weight off just by exercising.
i do know a good few people in their 40s (women) who didn't lose weight despite training for and running the marathon!