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Omg SHERLOCK is back on New Year's Day

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Sneezecakesmum · 14/12/2013 18:00

How did he survive jumping of that building? How did he get all that blood back inside him? How did he survive being dead?! Shock

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Nerfmother · 02/01/2014 00:37

Mentalist has sexy man simon something not from home and away tho; was in The Guardian?

HazeltheMcWitch · 02/01/2014 00:46

Mentalist man was in H&A see?

This must have been my H&A era, as I remember his face from it. No idea on the character tho (he was a teacher) - all of his plot lines - in fact all the plot lines apart from Ailsa's ghost and Meg dying - seem wholly unmemorable.

AnAdventureInCakeAndWine · 02/01/2014 01:41

"The only similarity between Tom and Sherlock was their coat."

And the scarf. And the footwear. And the height. And the hair colour.

Moln · 02/01/2014 07:01

I think it was an entirely different train Mellow, though still a shorter train would probably benoticed, if not by the driver then certainly the commuters.

I really enjoyed it, possibly because I've not thought about it since two years ago so no expectations. I did feel though that Sherlock was less Sherlock and was slighly more compassionate than before.

hackmum · 02/01/2014 07:21

iismum - I've been puzzling over that as well. Loads of people are allowed to know that Sherlock is still alive - but not Watson. Why? It makes no sense - unless something is being held back. More likely, it's just one of those inconsistencies that will just be ignored in the hope that no-one notices. Moffat has form on this (see Dr Who).

I enjoyed it though.

PedantMarina · 02/01/2014 07:22

Oooh, how we loved the seques! Esp the bit where it went back and forth from Watson's medical practice to Mycroft asking Holmes how Watson took it and some very naughty words were nearly said.

Loved all the alternative theories as well - the Holmes and Moriarty kiss one just had us howling.

YY to Tom being Holmesian in his looks. I didn't think he's meant to be exactly, just enough. Think Ross (David Schwimmer) and Russ (Snaro). But wasn't it lovely that Sherlock didn't show off his powers of deduction on this occasion - shows a teeny bit of growth.

LucyLasticBand · 02/01/2014 07:41

loved it,
really enjoyed it,
and it is martin freeman's RL partner playing his girlfirned

martin freeman was so good. as were they both.

OrangePixie · 02/01/2014 08:15

I thought the moment they first came together was brilliant. Not just Watson's reaction but Sherlock's reaction to John's reaction. Like he suddenly realised the magnitude of what he'd done to John. Superb acting from both of them.

OodlesofOods · 02/01/2014 08:15

Watson would be the one person expected to know Sherlock was alive. Any slip up ( Watson trusting a gd for example) would be what concerns Sherlock.

iismum · 02/01/2014 08:18

hacksmum, I agree - I think it will just be swept under the carpet. For me this is a huge problem - I can forgive a few plot holes here and there but the relationship between Sherlock and Watson is at the heart of the show and if it's not believable, it really doesn't work for me.

I hope there is some explanation for it, but given that John seems to have already forgiven him even though he seems to have done it for no reason at all except that he didn't much care about John's profound grief makes me think it is unlikely. sigh

iismum · 02/01/2014 08:21

Oodles, I get that - but his parents (as well as lots of other people) knew. Given they were clearly not that sharp, surely they would be way more likely to slip up than John? Surely it would be so obvious that they weren't grieving. They didn't even bother to go to his funeral - not exactly subtle!

OodlesofOods · 02/01/2014 08:34

Mycroft would have been able to shelter them though wouldn't he.

I loved they were so scatty and had Mycroft & Sherlock as sons , loved the brotherly bits too

LondonMother · 02/01/2014 08:36

I think the major reason Watson couldn't know is because that's what Conan Doyle did in the original. No mention of the Holmes parents in Conan Doyle, though!

OodlesofOods · 02/01/2014 08:50

t shirts

LucyLasticBand · 02/01/2014 09:11

i loved their banter. and i just knew watson was going to punch him.

AnAdventureInCakeAndWine · 02/01/2014 09:50

I think the writing fail wasn't Sherlock's letting Watson think he was dead for two years that's exactly the sort of thing he'd do it was having his parents know all along. They wanted the extra joke when Watson realises that yet another set of people knew the truth when he didn't (and also, I imagine, they wanted to introduce Sherlock and Mycroft's parents, but hadn't thought to feature them in the funeral episode last season) but in so doing they undermined the character (Sherlock wouldn't have told his parents unless there was a good logical reason for doing so) and the plot (how convincing would Sherlock's death have been if his parents didn't seem to buy into it?).

I really enjoyed the Holmes/Watson banter and Mary adds a helpful third angle to the whole thing. The actual mystery-of-the-week was a bit bobbins, though -- I didn't mind this week because it was all about the interplay, but they had better put more effort into that side of things in the next one.

Tanith · 02/01/2014 09:54

Loved it! I wonder if we ever will find out how he really did it, though...

I loved the "chess" game scene. DS is chess-mad and was complaining that
1 he couldn't see the moves
2 they couldn't be playing that fast
but even he laughed when it was revealed Grin

LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob · 02/01/2014 09:55

I loved it. Loved spotting the odd case scattered here and there from the books. Loved the kiss, both of them. Cannot wait till Sunday.

OvO · 02/01/2014 12:56

It makes sense that the ones that didn't know we're John, Greg and Mrs Hudson. They are the only ones Sherlock considers friends/close to so the only ones that people would be looking to to see an appropriate grieving response. If they hadn't pulled it off convincingly then it would have been obvious to all the 'baddies' that Sherlock had fooled them all and was still alive.

As long as they looked devastated Sherlock was safe to go off and deal with Moriartys network.

He's clearly not close to his parents, probably rarely sees them, so it was okay for them to know as no-one would be paying their response to his death all that much attention.

edamsavestheday · 02/01/2014 14:00

Furball, did that article really get Martin Freeman's and Benedict Cumberbatch's names wrong originally? They are fine now...

OodlesofOods · 02/01/2014 14:03

Anadventure and Ovo good points re cover.

FrankelInFoal · 02/01/2014 14:03

Love the fact that someone spotted that Anderson had a picture of a Tardis on his conspiracy wall. There are screen grabs all over Twitter/Tumblr Grin

I think Moffat and Gattis loved taking the elements of fan fiction and weaving them into the plot.

OodlesofOods · 02/01/2014 14:07

Have you seen Wholock? Its very well done

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 02/01/2014 14:10

right me too. He is utterly utterly hot. Blush