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Homeland 2 - Revenge of the Beards

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Hassled · 08/12/2013 13:25

We're running out of space on the previous thread - thanks to HalleLouja for the inspired thread title.

No spoilers please! I'm all braced for the Bearded Iran Invasion. And maybe, just maybe, tonight's the night Silent Chris will get that speech therapy he so badly needs.

And another pathetic link to those Homelanded album covers because if someone doesn't tell me what at least one of them originally was then I might well go pop.

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TheDoctrineOfSanta · 16/12/2013 17:47

No, I think he was trying to stay in a position where he could kill matey-boy - otherwise he'd've just told on Javadi then asked for protection.

coffeeinbed · 16/12/2013 17:59

BOF, that's very true.
When Javadi becomes the big boss why would he care what Saul has on him?

GypsyFloss · 16/12/2013 18:39

I hope the last one ties up all the loose ends but I fear it won't. Which means I'll be back watching against my better judgement!

TheDoctrineOfSanta · 16/12/2013 18:51

I think Saul said he was trying to shake up the stalemate though, not control Javadi once in his new position .

BitOfFunWithSanta · 16/12/2013 19:03

Has he never heard the saying 'better the devil you know'?

I know that the problems in the Middle East seem pretty intractable, but I think that conspiring to empower a man who would bottle his wife and shoot anybody irrelevant in the face is taking 'thinking outside the box' a little too far.

TheDoctrineOfSanta · 16/12/2013 19:11

You should write a management manual, BOF Xmas Grin

onedev · 16/12/2013 20:29

Agreed Doctrine - I'd read that one BOF Grin

Hassled · 16/12/2013 20:36

:o BOF

But there's still a higher authority in Iran, isn't there - the Ayatollah. So Javadi still has someone he's answerable to, someone he presumably won't want to know about the posing as a dead goalkeeper (did I just make that up?) and embezzling millions.

Except then of course if he's still answerable to someone, you wonder what use he will actually be to Saul.

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Ladycurd · 16/12/2013 20:40

Anyone else wonder why Saul keeps buggering off to make phone calls to Carrie with piles of amstrads and old lamps behind him? Even if they are in a "make do Langley" you'd think someone would have had a clear out

BitOfFunWithSanta · 16/12/2013 20:56

Ladycurd Xmas Grin

TreaterAnita · 17/12/2013 00:31

Helpful hint: if, like me, you were thinking of downloading the last episode of this season so you don't have to watch it with your MIL do not put 'Homeland Season 3' into google. Some US websites have very spoilery titles to their links.

My lips are obviously sealed though. (And I haven't actually watched the finale because I couldn't see a link which didn't look likely to give me a virus.)

Re the last episode, I'm pretty sure that Brody hadn't actually turned once again on his increasingly tiny fulcrum, because Carrie said he hadn't and she's always right yes? I think he knows that there is no way out for him, in terms of rehabilitation by the CIA unless he goes through with his mission, so he was playing the long game and that's why he refused the offer of extraction. Also, it's supposed to be about him redeeming himself, he has to go through with it or he is still just the man who put on that vest.

I did think the that the episode was very rushed though. In terms of the season as a whole, they could have spent a lot less if it on Dana's Creek and a lot more of it on Brody's time in Iran. There was, for example, no explanation of how Carrie had persuaded Saul to let her be in charge of the mission on the ground (though possibly because any explanation would be entirely implausible).

I really liked the scene between Brody and Abu Nazir's wife though. Even though Brody ultimately hadn't bought into the cause, there was genuine emotion there when they discussed what they had lost and how they had to emerge from the rubble and keep on going. And I thought the ending was great, Brody goading Akbari into admitting that he was just a pawn all along, which then justified to him the decision to do him in.

Showtime · 17/12/2013 01:06

Indeed, Anita. Akbari also admitted he'd made plans with Abu Nazir to turn Brody originally, which was most likely the reason he killed him, part of the redemption after telling Akbari why he was in the country. Can't wait for finale.

Bubblez123 · 17/12/2013 11:54

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TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 17/12/2013 12:09

Wtf? Angry Why would you post that spoiler when we haven't watched it, AND DON'T WANT TO KNOW what happened? FFS.

coffeeinbed · 17/12/2013 12:41

Oh FFS!
What a stupid thing to post.

coffeeinbed · 17/12/2013 12:44

I've reported it as well.
Honestly, what were you thinking??

Bubblez123 · 17/12/2013 12:47

Sorry I thought most people watched it but why report its not that serious. Is it a rule breaker?

coffeeinbed · 17/12/2013 12:51

Because no one want to know now.
Rather spoils the gum of watching?
Yes posting spoilers is a rule breaker.
The rule being "stop, think, post"

coffeeinbed · 17/12/2013 12:51

fun

ziggiestardust · 17/12/2013 12:55

I'm on the iPad reading this on the mumsnet app so I can't see what bubblez has posted. But yes, please remove it, this thread is for discussing, not revealing.

ziggiestardust · 17/12/2013 12:56

And interesting first post on mumsnet, bubblez123

ziggiestardust · 17/12/2013 12:57

I've reported you, by the way.

Camargue · 17/12/2013 12:59

Thanks for that one, you ruined it for me.

FunnyFestiveTableRunner · 17/12/2013 13:10

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PseudoSanta · 17/12/2013 13:11

Oh FFS I didn't even click into the thread, saw the fucking SPOILER on my TIO. Thanks a bunch.