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This Strictly Come Dancing thing - are the judges a bit racist?

239 replies

Wuldric · 16/11/2013 23:11

So for the first time in my life, I have been exposed to this Strictly stuff. Fairly predictably it was utter crap. Brucie almost remembered all of his lines, which was good.

Then I started looking at the scores.

You tell me why this performance - Susanna Reid & Kevin dance the Paso Doble to 'Los Toreadors' - - where the non-professional swished her skirts a few times

got the same marks as this performance.
Natalie Gumede & Artem dance the Charleston to 'Bang Bang'- Where the non-professional played a blinder. That girl could seriously but seriously dance.

And then tell me that racism isn't institutional.

OP posts:
LeBearPolar · 17/11/2013 22:28

Have just rewatched Sophie's Charleston on YouTube and then clicked through to Denise's and James' from last year. Am just about to rewatch Chris and Ola's which I think is one of my favourite Strictly dances ever just for the sheer fun factor Grin

MissMarplesBloomers · 17/11/2013 22:28

Oh dear God another one.

AIBU?

Yes YABU

No I'm not

Yes you are

NO I AM RIGHT.

Ok then

plus3 · 17/11/2013 22:28

Yes! Digital spy would welcome you with open arms!!!

Strictly is a lot of things, but racist it is not. Especially based on your assumptions about marks.

You are just wrong. Hope that's helps Smile

coffeeinbed · 17/11/2013 22:28

OP you are incredibly rude.

And strangely resistant to any explanations.

Sieveoooplay · 17/11/2013 22:29

Why don't you explain to us why Natalie has had the best scores of all in every week. Her combined scores were the best on weeks 1&2 (which were combined), and she has had the best scores in weeks 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8. She was not top in week 7 because she didn't dance.

She has the top average scores as well, 2 points above the next dancer, despite dancing one dance less.

How do you explain that???

LeBearPolar · 17/11/2013 22:31

But maybe, you wouldn't like the answer, if you were to examine it honestly.

Oh, the irony.

Sieveoooplay · 17/11/2013 22:31

And could you explain what you think should have happened with the scores. Should Natalie have got 40 or Suzannah should have got less.

Wuldric · 17/11/2013 22:32

You keep telling me I am wrong, chaps

But only one of you has actually made an argument that Natalie danced worse than susannah (and that person disappeared quick sharp)

So, any rational explanations?

OP posts:
Sieveoooplay · 17/11/2013 22:34

The technical ability of Suzannahs dance was better than Natalies. CRH is a particular stickler for technical ability.

If you answer my questions I am less likely to think you are being goady.

DownstairsMixUp · 17/11/2013 22:35

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DowntonTrout · 17/11/2013 22:36

Sparky black kid? Alrighty then. Such a non racist term of phrase- I must use it to describe dancers more often.

lebearpolar wasn't Chris and Olas charleston brilliant? It's funny how some dances just suit someone. Bit like Suzanna and her Paso- that has been her dance of the series. Ah- may-zing.

LeBearPolar · 17/11/2013 22:37

Sieveoooplay, it's clearly racism. Somehow. It has to be because I want it to be! So the fact that Natalie has more marks than anyone else on this show and has been the top of the leader board nearly every week is in some way racist and I demand an explanation. Right now. As long as it is the explanation which I want to hear, which is that it is racism.

MrsCakesPremonition · 17/11/2013 22:37

I think that lots of people have said that Natalie's charleston was less than 100% perfect - and as such 39/40 was a fair mark.

It would seem unfair to everyone taking part if one dancer was given a perfect 40/40 even though she made mistakes in her dance - just because she is usually the better dancer.

Sieveoooplay · 17/11/2013 22:38

Why is the OP assuming that we are all white?

LeBearPolar · 17/11/2013 22:39

But only one of you has actually made an argument that Natalie danced worse than susannah (and that person disappeared quick sharp)

How's counting coming along for you these days, OP? We managed to get as far as three people making that argument last time I had to count up for you - me and two others.

LeBearPolar · 17/11/2013 22:41

Downton - I just rewatched it and it made me smile. They were such a perfect pairing, those two, and that Charleston was fab.

But I hope you're not daring to praise Susannah's paso when we've been reliably informed that it was just skirt-swishing and the 'sparky black kid' (could that be any more patronising to a 29 year old woman?) was so much better? Hmm

ClayDavis · 17/11/2013 22:41

I'm not sure if I'm in that 3 or not but you can add me. I wasn't particularly bowled over by Susannah's paso but it was danced better than Natalie's Charleston.

Sieveoooplay · 17/11/2013 22:43

I love Chris and Ola's jive. That was the first series that I watched properly and its still one of my favourite dances.

Taffeta · 17/11/2013 22:43

The scores make sense if you have seen the series not just this ep.

As others have said, Susannah stepped up, Natalie has danced better, Charleston not her dance. Sophie's was more convincing.

I guess the judges were a bit 10 happy as it was Blackpool.

CarolineKnappShappey · 17/11/2013 22:44

Why don't we all say we agree with the OP?

Then she might stop.

(But we don't, obviously)

ClayDavis · 17/11/2013 22:44

Charleston not even in Natalie's top 3 dances IMO.

edamsavestheday · 17/11/2013 22:48

OP, you have ignored several posts pointing out Natalie has scored the highest marks every week.

coffeeinbed · 17/11/2013 22:49

This thread is bonkers.
I can tell you exactly what OP's next post will be.

Sieveoooplay · 17/11/2013 22:50

Because that doesn't fit with the theory so its just ignored.

Are you Natalie's Mum OP??

WallyBantersJunkBox · 17/11/2013 22:56

Soooooooo....it's racist is it?

What will it be next week - homophobic? Ageist?

The judges could have voted out a black contestant on a previous occasion, but they didn't. They judged based on skills. If the British public had been completely racist then the two black contestants would be at the bottom every week, wouldn't they?

The end of the Charleston was cocked up - previous to this she fainted twice, smashed her partners nose and is covered in bruises. She is a little bit tense and you can't blame her. When he picked her up she tensed and went over like a sack of potatoes.

She tried her best, but it wasn't a patch on Abbey Crouch's Charleston for example.

The Paso Doble was executed expertly - with correct body tension, passion, use of the floor and great moves. The dance was scored on Paso Doble moves, not Charleston.

If you want to keep crowing on I suggest you download the entire show and watch the Charleston performances. Then make a note of the scores and compare the dance. or you could keep goading.

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