This Strictly Come Dancing thing - are the judges a bit racist?

[Wuldric]

So for the first time in my life, I have been exposed to this Strictly stuff. Fairly predictably it was utter crap. Brucie almost remembered all of his lines, which was good.

Then I started looking at the scores.

You tell me why this performance - Susanna Reid & Kevin dance the Paso Doble to 'Los Toreadors' - - where the non-professional swished her skirts a few times

got the same marks as this performance.
Natalie Gumede & Artem dance the Charleston to 'Bang Bang'- Where the non-professional played a blinder. That girl could seriously but seriously dance.

And then tell me that racism isn't institutional.

You're not engaging with the problem ...

The problem is that the black kid could dance all the other contestants off the floor. You either have to tell me that she isn't better than the others by a country mile (which is not credible) or you have to give me a rational explanation as to why she didn't get marks that reflected her ability

I've been watching SCD for years. The judges are definitely not racist

LittleBearPad - I switch off the television to avoid watching programmes I don't want to watch. Works a treat.

So explain the result. Just explain it. Rather than affirming something emotionally. Just explain that result.

I think I need some chocolate.

She got marked 39 out of a possible 40. Either you're on the gin or you're bonkers

I am neither bonkers nor on the gin. She was the best dancer by far. Please explain why she did not get the best results.

Is this goady thread still going on??

And it's been explained to you numerous times - people get marked on their skills from when they started.

Natalie is a professionally trained dancer so she has a higher bar than many of the others.

There have been 3 black/asian/mixed race winners of Strictly afaik

Let's refer you back to almost every previous post for an explanation. Maybe it's time to give it up, the racism arguement clearly doesn't work on this one so bore off.

What did you expect them to give her??

Your arguement may have hel some water if she had gone first, but she went after Suzannah.

Also, if the show was racist, they would have got rid of Natalie last week when she was poorly.

I believe I tried to explain the marking. I am not a die hard scd watcher but I do remember on occasions over the years being utterly confused about the marking and the judges talking about the journey and marking them accordingly, and certainly for those who score highly one week who then peak their own ability and then get bad scores from then on.

Its clear you feel so strongly about this and you obviously see something that most of us who have watched this over the years don't. I genuinely would have liked to have heard your opinion when Colin Jackson won it, or Alecia Dixon was a judge and if you still thought that the collective scoring was racist on those occasions or just happens to now be this series.

Um, so protesting against blatant racism is goady? You think? I'm going to carry on goading you then, matey :)

Where is it stated in the rules that certain entrants have a higher bar than others? It is not stated so in the rules. They all enter equally. Absolutely equally. So the best dancer should get the best marks. Simples.

But its not blatant racism, its in your head.

Lol at blatant racism grin]

Suzannah danced first and danced well. She got 39

Then Natalie Danced. She danced well and also got 39.

The judges cannot take back the score they gave Suzannah, so what would you have them do?

If you can find one other person who supports you in your bizarre stance, I'll eat the wig Natalie was wearing last night.

What did you expect them to give her??

Your arguement may have hel some water if she had gone first, but she went after Suzannah.

I do not understand this comment. It makes no sense to me. So you are telling me that the order in which contestants appear makes a difference to their marks? Seriously? In which case they were being racist by ensuring that Natalie went last and therefore couldn't win.

Oh. Dear. God. wishes there was an ignore poster button

I think you are being obtuse on purpose.

YAWN! Op your opinions of strictly are everything that's wrong with the world and still not very interesting. I'm off to bed. Have fun.

So if the judges are racist, how did Alesha win, or Louis?

I don't think she is the best dancer in the Strictly sense.The idea is the untrained "star" dances like a professional.You seem to miss the concept of the show.

Nathalie is a trained dancer, as was Denise Van Outen last year.Nathalie wont win either imo.I think Patrick will.

The best dancer imo are Patrick and Suzanna. Both untrained, Patrick is 50 so double the age of the likes of Abbey and Nathalie.

I can't believe this. OP, you are so wide of the mark you can't even see it.

This week was not Natalie's best performance by a mile. In previous weeks - when Natalie's dances have been better - Natalie & Artem have consistently gained the top marks.

What of Patrick? Did you find his scores to be fair?